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Thoughts On Atheism and Faith
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(October 9, 2016 at 5:02 am)ray3400 Wrote: How can we prove by the physical that which exists beyond the physical? Would we be guaranteed such a proof if the spiritual did exist?

Is the inability to prove the spiritual using the physical an excuse to avoid naturalism and the scientist? Have we yet learned the limitations of the scientist to know that their is nothing beyond their ways?

So if we were to suspend the necessity of naturalism, to entertain the idea of the spiritual, what would we find? [..]

We would find that witness of the spiritual is inconsistent. You have multiple religions all around the world each speaking of a different spiritual reality. The truth is not itself inconsistent. Therefore the spiritual doesn't pick out truth. It is a bag of fantasies. Nothing more. Fantasy is of little use to anyone as a substitute for truth.
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Thoughts On Atheism and Faith - by ray3400 - October 7, 2016 at 2:37 am
RE: Thoughts On Atheism and Faith - by Alex K - October 7, 2016 at 2:44 am
RE: Thoughts On Atheism and Faith - by ray3400 - October 7, 2016 at 3:05 am
RE: Thoughts On Atheism and Faith - by Alex K - October 7, 2016 at 6:01 am
RE: Thoughts On Atheism and Faith - by Sal - October 7, 2016 at 7:38 am
RE: Thoughts On Atheism and Faith - by Excited Penguin - October 7, 2016 at 11:31 am
RE: Thoughts On Atheism and Faith - by LastPoet - October 7, 2016 at 2:50 am
RE: Thoughts On Atheism and Faith - by ray3400 - October 7, 2016 at 3:20 am
RE: Thoughts On Atheism and Faith - by LastPoet - October 7, 2016 at 4:46 am
RE: Thoughts On Atheism and Faith - by Sal - October 7, 2016 at 8:00 am
RE: Thoughts On Atheism and Faith - by Excited Penguin - October 7, 2016 at 11:38 am
RE: Thoughts On Atheism and Faith - by LastPoet - October 7, 2016 at 3:17 am
RE: Thoughts On Atheism and Faith - by Excited Penguin - October 7, 2016 at 11:33 am
RE: Thoughts On Atheism and Faith - by robvalue - October 7, 2016 at 3:38 am
RE: Thoughts On Atheism and Faith - by ray3400 - October 7, 2016 at 3:50 am
RE: Thoughts On Atheism and Faith - by robvalue - October 7, 2016 at 4:09 am
RE: Thoughts On Atheism and Faith - by ray3400 - October 7, 2016 at 4:27 am
RE: Thoughts On Atheism and Faith - by Jackalope - October 7, 2016 at 9:48 am
RE: Thoughts On Atheism and Faith - by robvalue - October 7, 2016 at 4:15 am
RE: Thoughts On Atheism and Faith - by ray3400 - October 7, 2016 at 4:48 am
RE: Thoughts On Atheism and Faith - by robvalue - October 7, 2016 at 4:31 am
RE: Thoughts On Atheism and Faith - by chimp3 - October 7, 2016 at 5:12 am
RE: Thoughts On Atheism and Faith - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 7, 2016 at 5:29 am
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RE: Thoughts On Atheism and Faith - by robvalue - October 7, 2016 at 5:34 am
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RE: Thoughts On Atheism and Faith - by ray3400 - October 7, 2016 at 6:26 am
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