RE: Donald Trump manages to be more sensible on Syria than Hilary
October 12, 2016 at 9:56 pm
(This post was last modified: October 12, 2016 at 9:57 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(October 12, 2016 at 9:37 pm)Rhythm Wrote: They arent in russia shooting at russians...they've been shooting at isis. The russians are overhead. These people will have a narrative of being attacked from the air by foreign powers - which is a sticking point for isis, lol.
Yeah, that's kinda my point, you know. Take issue with the verbiage all you want while you buttress it, it's all good.
(October 12, 2016 at 9:37 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Unfortunately it is, because we not only directly contributed to isis, we drew a line in the sand against assad and then abandoned people when he crossed it.
Wait, here's some goalpost-moving. I never said Obama's statements about that situation were wise, and you won't badger me into defending them.
(October 12, 2016 at 9:37 pm)Rhythm Wrote: -and you ask me above and again below what we could do to keep russia from bombing civilians?
Yes. You, voluble in this thread as you are, have yet to provide on idea about how to stop that which we both deplore.
Unlike you, I'm honest enough to admit that I have no answer, and instead devolve to protecting the national interest.
For all your henpecking, you've yet to offer what you think would be a solution.I'd like to see what you think would be workable, and I'd like to think you've thought this through enough to present as much.
(October 12, 2016 at 9:37 pm)Rhythm Wrote: WTF are you talking about? Civilians are being bombed because russia seeks continued strategic access, and sees opportunity in this chaos. Not because syria is fucked up.
In case you didn't notice, Syrians were being barrel-bombed by Assad long before the Russians got involved. If you need links for some information, I'll be happy to oblige ... all you have to do is ask.
(October 12, 2016 at 9:37 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Military power is not the only lever.
No shit, Sherlock. What do you propose?
(October 12, 2016 at 9:37 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Your right, it's really hard, so lets do nothing, and count the deaths of civilians as currency for some later punishment that will not matter to the dead.
Pretty sure I never advocated doing nothing.
I'm also sure you have not yet advocated anything.
You could, of course, direct me to your post with your suggested course of action.
Oh, wait ... you can't.
(October 12, 2016 at 9:37 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Nor is it in theirs. It's in no ones interests, so why are we discussing it?
Because short of war, what can America do to fix the crisis in Aleppo?
Really, follow along.
(October 12, 2016 at 9:37 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Remind me, is military power the only lever or isn't it?
That kinda depends on the situation. But hey, don't let Maslow's Hammer fill up your toolbox.
BTW, I missed your preferred solution, Rhythm. Do you have one, or do you not know either? Be honest.