RE: The positive case for voting Hillary Clinton for president.
November 4, 2016 at 1:40 pm
(This post was last modified: November 4, 2016 at 1:46 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 4, 2016 at 1:27 pm)Whateverist Wrote:Pure of heart, lol.......no ones ever accused me of that. I'm thinking of shit like having cosponsored a bill to criminalize flag burning - a year in jail and a 100k fine, which was obviously dropped, and then not a year later voting against an amendment to -precisely- the same effect.(November 4, 2016 at 11:19 am)Rhythm Wrote: Tailoring a message is a generous way to describe her many competing, duplicitous, and sometimes mutually exclusive positions.
I appreciate the value of political expediency and capital, but at some point you're playing the game solely for the sake of the game. We've had about enough of that shit, haven't we?
(@ Vor, that's what I'm talkin about, have somebody else bust his shit fixing your fields, I got some poor schmuck to fucking -destroy- his disks on a little 20 acre patch for what amounted to barely more than the cost of fuel)
Oh to be so pure at heart. It would be touching if the result wasn't so sad.
So is she a civil rights bashing statist or is she just a panderer? Which is worse, actually thinking it;s a good idea to criminalize flag burning, or thinking it;s a good idea to pander by pretending to be interested in criminalizing flag burning? I mean, she could have pandered over something else, surely?
Or, maybe espousing the position that we need nuclear, while simultaneously supporting the scuttling of our only nuclear waste storage facility...something the obama administration was keen on, ofc, so it was the party line, while they simultaneously convened a committee to see what needed to be done about the nuclear waste issue and - surprise surprise, yucca was our best bet.
That's not just simple duplicity or even cronyism, it's fucking incompetence, and it doesn't really support the notion that she's a smart lady, so..if we want to assume that she is,..we have to appeal to something other than a mistake or general ignorance. In just those two examples we've discussed civil rights and energy/tech policy, two issues near and dear to me, and probably having nothing to do with any purity of heart on my part (and clearly not on hers, lol).
Owing to her long history in politics (taken by some to be a pro and others a con), I could go on, and on, and on....so while I could easily agree that she has the smarts, she doesn;t have the policies..and what policies she does have have..historically, been policies of convenience and popularity, not policies of determination or substance - the ones she -does- genuinely seem to be interested in advancing run the range of "wtf" to "fuck you", imo.
Before anyone objects, she has her flagship stuff..but even that is the political equivalent of the softest pitch ever thrown by anyone...so while that work is impressive, it doesn't make me think that she'll suddenly turn into something other than a lukewarm conservative in a liberal pantsuit.
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