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Can we build AI without losing control over it? | Sam Harris

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RE: Can we build AI without losing control over it? | Sam Harris

November 4, 2016 at 6:42 pm

(November 4, 2016 at 6:38 pm)Mathilda Wrote:
(November 4, 2016 at 6:05 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Well no, that isn't part of his argument so it's not important.

We just need to assume that it's inevitable eventually.

No. We cannot make that assumption for the myriad of reasons I have already laid out.

It might happen. It very well might not.

But that's not what I'm saying Mathilda. I'm not saying that we have to make that assumption full stop. I'm saying that we have to make that assumption for his conclusion to follow.

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Can we build AI without losing control over it? | Sam Harris - by Edwardo Piet - November 4, 2016 at 10:09 am

RE: Can we build AI without losing control over it? | Sam Harris - by Mister Agenda - November 4, 2016 at 10:23 am

RE: Can we build AI without losing control over it? | Sam Harris - by I_am_not_mafia - November 4, 2016 at 10:26 am

RE: Can we build AI without losing control over it? | Sam Harris - by Edwardo Piet - November 4, 2016 at 10:31 am

RE: Can we build AI without losing control over it? | Sam Harris - by I_am_not_mafia - November 4, 2016 at 10:38 am

RE: Can we build AI without losing control over it? | Sam Harris - by Edwardo Piet - November 4, 2016 at 10:41 am

RE: Can we build AI without losing control over it? | Sam Harris - by The Grand Nudger - November 4, 2016 at 11:50 am

RE: Can we build AI without losing control over it? | Sam Harris - by Edwardo Piet - November 4, 2016 at 1:05 pm

RE: Can we build AI without losing control over it? | Sam Harris - by Edwardo Piet - November 4, 2016 at 1:09 pm

RE: Can we build AI without losing control over it? | Sam Harris - by I_am_not_mafia - November 4, 2016 at 1:16 pm

RE: Can we build AI without losing control over it? | Sam Harris - by I_am_not_mafia - November 4, 2016 at 1:15 pm

RE: Can we build AI without losing control over it? | Sam Harris - by abaris - November 4, 2016 at 2:57 pm

RE: Can we build AI without losing control over it? | Sam Harris - by I_am_not_mafia - November 4, 2016 at 3:34 pm

RE: Can we build AI without losing control over it? | Sam Harris - by The Grand Nudger - November 4, 2016 at 1:19 pm

RE: Can we build AI without losing control over it? | Sam Harris - by Edwardo Piet - November 4, 2016 at 1:27 pm

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RE: Can we build AI without losing control over it? | Sam Harris - by Edwardo Piet - November 4, 2016 at 1:24 pm

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RE: Can we build AI without losing control over it? | Sam Harris - by Edwardo Piet - November 4, 2016 at 2:40 pm

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