There has to be a God/Creator

[Faith No More]

When you say people used to thnk lightning was attributed to God, are you referring to the God of the Bible or some other god?

Whatever Gods or Goddesses they happened to believe in.

Mind if I ask you about your "magic" analogy a bit?

Sure, he keeps asking us to refute his facts but the only facts he has presented are how nature and math work. No one has disputed that, we've only disputed the conclusions he has drawn from how nature and math work. No matter how illogical we try to show that just attributing it all to God because he can't understand something is, he replies smugly and claims victory. My assertion that it's magic cannot be disproven any more than his claim that God did it, so the only way to show the irrationality of the argument is through the method that the conclusion was drawn from. I merely substituted magic for God in his argument, as he cannot prove that some wizard living light years away isn't controlling the structure of nature, to show the futility of his demanding 'proof' that he is wrong. As I said before, the only way to disprove such an argument is debunk the way the conclusion was reached, but he claims that the only way to prove him wrong is to come up with an equally valid alternative. I submit that magic is equally valid.