(November 9, 2016 at 11:44 am)Aegon Wrote:(November 9, 2016 at 11:32 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: But you're assuming that most Gary Johnson/Jill Stein voters would've automatically voted for Hillary. The fact that it was this close at all is a far bigger problem.
No. That's not the point. Going into an election voting for somebody you know won't win when your state is literally deciding the election is irrational. No realistic mobilization of Johnson voters could ever have dreamt of getting close to getting the state to go for him. Your choice is between Clinton and Trump. All Johnson voters did was frustrate the realists in those states. And when the numbers are so close that Johnson's numbers literally fill the gap between the two candidates, it's inexcusable. Ridiculous.
I voted third party. Not even, I voted for a joke third party candidate. But I live in New York. If I lived in Michigan, Ohio, Iowa, Florida, etc. you bet your ass I'd have voted for Clinton.
(November 9, 2016 at 11:34 am)Kingpin Wrote: I live in Michigan and voted for Johnson. I did not "fuck" anything up. I voted my opinion as the rest of Americans did.
Michigan:
Trump - 47.6%
Clinton - 47.3%
Johnson - 3.6%
Tell yourself that all you want, friend.
Aegon, this viewpoint is completely irrational. Swing state or not no voter should feel pressured to vote for a candidate they do not support. You are saying if you lived in my state you would have changed your vote? If you support Hillary in Michigan why did you not vote for her in NY? I don't follow your logic. You are basically saying your vote doesn't matter and silencing your own voice. No my vote is NOT dependent on where I live. My vote is my civic duty to place for the candidate I feel falls most in line with my views. Whether they have a snowballs chance in hell of winning is irrelevant.
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