(November 9, 2016 at 3:25 pm)Rhythm Wrote: God could have made improvements to the constants, if he was tuning it for life.Oh, there are numerous ways to attack the fine-tuning argument. I think that the limiting nature of it is what should undermine it most clearly for theists. I don't think you'll find many creationists who will agree that God would be confounded by a universe that was not properly tuned... especially since He created it. Therefore, the universe does not need to be fine-tuned for life. If it does... God is invalidated.
It's like the 'complexity' argument, where the complexity of the universe (or a cell, or a protozoan, or a fly, etc) is supposed to be evidence for a hyper-smart and hyper-powerful designer. The thing is, complexity is typically indicative of a bad designer, or one dealing with limitations (lack of technology, lack of knowledge, lack of resources, etc). Look at almost any "creation" and imagine how easy it would be to improve it significantly while also simplifying it drastically, and then remember that nothing is impossible for you to do. Would you have designed human knees that way?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould
