(November 9, 2016 at 6:55 pm)Rhythm Wrote:(November 9, 2016 at 6:30 pm)Aroura Wrote: You are wrong, it was about helping all of them, rural included. But she didn't tout their other social values, so they didn't want to listen. Her policies would have helped them more than Trumps.
Trump offered them literally nothing, an empty plate at best, and taking more away from them at worst, and they opted for that because of the social divide.
Vague offers of bringing jobs back, kicking out those damned illegals stealing their jobs, and more sever trickle down economics. They want to blame everyone, the illegals, the government, the liberal elite, so they voted out of blind anger. Well, we'll see how their wasteland looks in 4 years. Pretty sure it will have expanded to include even more of us.
This was a campaign of fear, and it worked wonders.
She didn't -tout- to them at all Aroura.....it wasn;t even a secret. She put her efforts on the big states and big cities and sent surrogates out to the rural areas to deliver a message they -already- didn't believe in. She didn't even -visit- wisconsin, as in the state, after the primary. Not once. That was actually a little bit of a record. It had been awhile since they'd been so completely ignored.
Yes, yes, ffs yes. It was a campaign of hate and fear, and that didn't hurt Trumps chances at all, but the people whom he appealed to had a legitimate complaint and they gave a giant f-u to both parties on account of it. Trumps not a conservative, they didn't go conservative. They had plenty of dog whistle blowing conservatives to choose from....the government -has- fucked the common man and the liberal elite -has not- done anything to stop it...they;ve been complacent and complicit....and then...they thought they might win this one without even talking to the people they needed to win over.
There is a very short window here, before a narrative about it being the other guys fault (amusing..considering that you're giving the trumpsters shit for this very thing) that this terrible thing happened calcifies and you become doomed to repeat it next cycle. You're completely dismisssing them again, right after dismissing them cost Hillary the presidency she worked so hard for.
I accept that the fault is is all of ours. So don't put that shit on me.
TRUMP NEVER VISITED WISCONSON EITHER.
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