(November 9, 2016 at 8:02 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:(November 9, 2016 at 7:36 am)PETE_ROSE Wrote: If your depiction is correct then what does that say for Clinton? That she is so inept she could not defeat a racist, mysoginist, willfully ignorant fear monger.
It says to me that enough U.S. Citizens are uneducated (that was his base demographic after all, before anyone gets all offended by my word choice), ignorant, followers in desperate need of someone to say things that make them feel safe; followers who fall back on hate, scapegoating, and bigotry in order to assuage their own irrational fears, and fill in the spaces where tangible knowledge and critical thinking should be.
It says to me that America wanted a playground bully for president regardless of his character, and embarrassing lack of understanding regarding economic and sociopolitical issues.
It tells me that a lot of Americans are blissfully happy to throw their vote to a pathological liar with the worst case of Dunning Kruger complex I have ever seen, so long as he shouts out all the right buzz words.
It says to me that my country is full of LAZY thinkers.
I guess the only real issue here is why I should find any of the above at all surprising...
Blame it on the 'uneducated.' Sounds like sour grapes to me.
Because otherwise if you think about it, essentially what you are saying is 'educated' people all think a certain way that will yield a predictable result... in this case education would compel you to vote clinton
Now what if said people, were educated in a place like china or russia? Where certain values and idealisms are preprogrammed in as a matter of course to obtain the title 'educated?' would they, having some of the finest educations russia or china had to offer, also vote clinton if given the oppertunity? According to my facebook feed, no.
So then if all of our core studies are the same (Math, science ect..) is in agreement between our education systems what or why would an educated person of a russia or china vote differenly than an 'educated person here?
what if... what you can identify as 'propaganda/preprogramming' from their state.. is simply different from the preprogramming from out state funded universities and collages??
In other words what if the 'education' you speak of in your post (that would compell an american to vote clinton) is just state mandated propaganda?
Would then an education be such a prized possession? Is this state mandated propaganda the reason bernie wants to give away collage? So that the state can properly influence what is moral and what is not? To get everyone thinking the same way? To make a nation of socialist robots?
Now put a pin in that thought and follow me over to the evangelical vote. You may want to dismiss the evangelicals as all being backwards or uneducated, but in fact most are indeed educated, but not at state run universities. Do you think 'educated' evangelicals who hold a 4 year degree or greater voted for clinton?
Again if the core studies are all the same (as with the russian and cinese example I gave) Ask yourself what differs from a private/religious education and a state sponsored one? what makes the educated christian vote differently than what you identifies as an 'educated' person? Again, It's the state sponcered propaganda/morality that you have being 'educated by the state' that privately educated people who do not have.
Now, that we isolated or identified the catylist for a clinton vote or rather a 'progressive' vote what makes you think your propaganda is better/more righteous than russia's or china's social propaganda? or the social propaganda of the 1920s where the KKK ran rampant or better than the social (science based) propaganda of Hitler's germany?
If you only use the parameters of right and wrong defined in the rules of the propaganda itself to judge your social movement you will always be able to justify whatever evils society wants to do, and you will always beable to justify calling others who do not agree with you evil as well.
In truth, you are right... Not enough people were programmed to pull off a clinton win. Now if you can truly objectively look at yourself as you look at others, ask yourself is that a bad thing? Am I truly on the right side of this argument?