America Great again!
November 10, 2016 at 11:36 am
(This post was last modified: November 10, 2016 at 12:16 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(November 10, 2016 at 10:49 am)Drich Wrote:.(November 9, 2016 at 8:02 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: It says to me that enough U.S. Citizens are uneducated (that was his base demographic after all, before anyone gets all offended by my word choice), ignorant, followers in desperate need of someone to say things that make them feel safe; followers who fall back on hate, scapegoating, and bigotry in order to assuage their own irrational fears, and fill in the spaces where tangible knowledge and critical thinking should be.
It says to me that America wanted a playground bully for president regardless of his character, and embarrassing lack of understanding regarding economic and sociopolitical issues.
It tells me that a lot of Americans are blissfully happy to throw their vote to a pathological liar with the worst case of Dunning Kruger complex I have ever seen, so long as he shouts out all the right buzz words.
It says to me that my country is full of LAZY thinkers.
I guess the only real issue here is why I should find any of the above at all surprising...
Blame it on the 'uneducated.' Sounds like sour grapes to me.
Because otherwise if you think about it, essentially what you are saying is 'educated' people all think a certain way that will yield a predictable result... in this case education would compel you to vote clinton
What I'm saying is many educated people are not as easily duped by instantly fact check-able lies. They also are less likely to be corralled in by fear-mongering and catastrophism.
Quote:Now what if said people, were educated in a place like china or russia? Where certain values and idealisms are preprogrammed in as a matter of course to obtain the title 'educated?' would they, having some of the finest educations russia or china had to offer, also vote clinton if given the oppertunity? According to my facebook feed, no.
Facebook feed? Nice reference, lol.
Quote:So then if all of our core studies are the same (Math, science ect..) is in agreement between our education systems what or why would an educated person of a russia or china vote differenly than an 'educated person here?
Because...Russia and China are not America? And you trying to generalize out like that is absurd. Lol
Quote:what if... what you can identify as 'propaganda/preprogramming' from their state.. is simply different from the preprogramming from out state funded universities and collages??
Do you wear a tinfoil hat to go along with that deep seeded paranoia? Yeah, yeah, we're all robots who are incapable of thinking for ourselves due to the powerful undercurrent of government propaganda. Except you, ofc. Cuz, bible. We've heard this argument ad nauseam from you, Dan. Try switching up the record for once, will ya?
Quote:Would then an education be such a prized possession? Is this state mandated propaganda the reason bernie wants to give away collage? So that the state can properly influence what is moral and what is not? To get everyone thinking the same way? To make a nation of socialist robots?
I'm a dietitian. Do you know how many times I've had to hear people assert that because the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics accepts funding from Coca-Cola and Nestle, that ALL dietitians are mindless robots who have been brainwashed by a corrupt, propaganda-fueled curriculum? It's an absurd oversimplification of a complex system. Does corruption happen within public policy? Yes, of course. Am I a mindless robot spewing the beverage industry's agenda? Of course not. Why, you ask? critical thinking skills. They apply in all aspects of life, believe it or not.
Quote:put a pin in that thought and follow me over to the evangelical vote. You may want to dismiss the evangelicals as all being backwards or uneducated, but in fact most are indeed educated, but not at state run universities. Do you think 'educated' evangelicals who hold a 4 year degree or greater voted for clinton?.
Critical. Thinking. Skills. Which I did reference in my post, btw. So stop trying to say that I laid all of this on education alone.
Quote:Again if the core studies are all the same (as with the russian and cinese example I gave) Ask yourself what differs from a private/religious education and a state sponsored one? what makes the educated christian vote differently than what you identifies as an 'educated' person? Again, It's the state sponcered propaganda/morality that you have being 'educated by the state' that privately educated people who do not have.
Well, they are being "educated" on a non-intellectual subject like Christianity, for starters, lol.
Quote:Now, that we isolated or identified the catylist for a clinton vote or rather a 'progressive' vote what makes you think your propaganda is better/more righteous than russia's or china's social propaganda? or the social propaganda of the 1920s where the KKK ran rampant or better than the social (science based) propaganda of Hitler's germany?
Repeat after me: critical. Thinking. Skills.
Oh and, "science based" Hitler propaganda? LOL. Thank you, I needed that laugh. You realize we have the Internet at our disposal, right? Why would you even make such non-applicable comparison?
Quote:you only use the parameters of right and wrong defined in the rules of the propaganda itself to judge your social movement you will always be able to justify whatever evils society wants to do, and you will always beable to justify calling others who do not agree with you evil as well.
In truth, you are right... Not enough people were programmed to pull off a clinton win. Now if you can truly objectively look at yourself as you look at others, ask yourself is that a bad thing? Am I truly on the right side of this argument?
I'll never be on the side of prejudice, bigotry, sexual assault, and demoting "the other" down to second class citizenhood. Sorry. You don't need Clinton propaganda to realize this is exactly what Trump wants to do. All you need are ears to hear his own words. Oh, and critical thinking skills. Have I mentioned those?
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