Trump is president; Who is to blame?

[abaris]

Yes, this! In the past 16 years, the Democrats figured out how to lose to W. twice and now Trump. And if Bush hadn't been such a fuck up, 2008 would have been up for grabs, as well. Hell, even Bill Clinton had to tack rightward to get anything done.

We discussed Shrub winning his second term back on Fearbush. The general consensus was that people didn't want change in times of war. Far as I remember Kerry wasn't running on the end the wars ticket which might have been more popular, given that America already lost about 3000 soldiers at that point in time.

Obama in a certain way also ran on the anti establishment ticket in 2008. On a more intellectual level than Trump, but at that time the Repubs presented a candidate being purely establishment with his running mate being a lose cannon and a wild card.

Now the democrats seem to have made the same mistake. I think I said it repeatedly when the polls about Clinton's lead made headlines. Don't underestimate the fact that many moderates and real liberals can't be arsed to vote at all, given the choice they are presented with. Trump on the other hand managed to mobilize his base just fine, which is almost always the case with creatures like that, since their followers feel to be on a mission instead of just fending off a bigger evil. I believe I said that also during the last couple of weeks. That this may just be the key to a largely unexpected Trump victory.