(November 10, 2016 at 2:03 pm)Rhythm Wrote:(November 10, 2016 at 2:34 am)Won2blv Wrote: I'm fucking pissed about Trump winning yesterday. I do not get how stupid the media was reporting the polling and basically missing Trump by a mile. I can't believe that the FBI released such a stupid letter that definitely assisted Trump. I can't believe that this human blow horn of shit was able to lie, demagogue, and abuse with his vulgar speech and then avoids shitting on the floor for 1 week before the election and he wins! I want to be clear, this wasn't just me hating Trump. I am enrolling into a state college and Hillary had a plan that would make it debt free for me. I have a homeless meth addicted brother with severe mental illness and Hillary had a plan to combat that. And I could go on.......what does any of that have to do with god?
Quote:Then I remember this prophecy in Daniel chapter 2. Nebuchadnezzar has a dream of an immense statue that is layered with different materials. Daniel interprets the dream to represent the kingdoms of the world that would stand in opposition to Jehovah. At the bottom is feet that are representing the final kingdom. The feet are a mixture of iron and clay. The iron represented the strength of the kingdom and the clay would represent the people, some footnotes further saying "the common people."ah, the other foot falls. So, firstly, le me remind you that "prophecy" even as interpreted by JW's has been..shall we say..miss and miss?
Daniel, like any prophesy, was more social commentary than crystal ball. Vaticinium ex eventu. Daniel is to be understood as the consequences, as the author saw it, of events past -even if- prophesied before the fact...which it wasn't. The OT isn't about american politics. I'm sure that a person can interpret it, if they so chose, in the -context- of american politics...but that doesn't change any fact, actual or hypothetical, about daniel.
I'm not denying that you can interpret it in a compelling way (which is why there's no reason for me to address the specifics either as they were then or as you see them now), mind you, only reminding you that..if you did...it's you...not "daniel"...and certainly not "god".... doing -that-.
That paragraph had nothing to do with god. Just the fact that Trump is such a roundly unfit human for such and important role in the world.
This is just the basis for why this is troubling me... Trump could literally destroy the worldwide economy, he could start nuclear wars, and he has proposed plans that will seriously undercut americas leverage on the world scene which would allow for other powers like China or Russia to rise in prominence. And when that prophecy is talking about world powers and at the bottom the last world power is going to be strong like iron but mixed with clay that represents the common people, it gets my attention. Its not like it just said that its iron mixed with clay. It specifically calls the clay the common people.
