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Should We Resist Trump?
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RE: Should We Resist Trump?
(November 13, 2016 at 8:10 am)abaris Wrote: To answer the OPs question, you should resists - with all the tools democracy provides you with. Taking to the streets, forming or joining grassroot organisations fighting for change.

It may very well be that I find myself in the same situation in one months time. I will take the streets again, after 20 years of absence and I will look for like minded people trying to keep the damage to a minimum. I'm a member of the green party for the last 20 years because they always fought the right. Their environmental agenda was secondary for that decision. I never was an active member and I more or less forgot about it all, but now it's at the forefront of my mind again. In our situation they can make a difference since our system ensures they will always be represented at parliament, getting between 12 and 14 percent of the votes in general elections.

I also find myself in the peculiar situation that our churches are our natural allies. They also fight resentment, bigotry and most of all being intrumentalised by the right. Churches in Western Europe are nothing like Americans may be used to. Both Catholics as well as protestants stand up against exclusion, help refugees and the needy. The protestants are even socially liberal for their most part and also the Catholics have strong factions fighting for social change. Bot priests and laymen.
That's interesting, what you're saying. The right wing is using American Christians the same way Hitler used German Christians. Now the German Christians know better, but here the Americans still have to learn what the Germans learned long ago. Hopefully America will learn and be wiser and less credulous for it.
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Should We Resist Trump? - by Rhondazvous - November 12, 2016 at 8:28 pm
RE: Should We Fight? - by vorlon13 - November 12, 2016 at 8:33 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by downbeatplumb - November 13, 2016 at 7:59 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by downbeatplumb - November 13, 2016 at 8:01 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by abaris - November 13, 2016 at 8:10 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Rhondazvous - November 13, 2016 at 12:02 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by abaris - November 13, 2016 at 12:55 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Rhondazvous - November 13, 2016 at 1:41 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by abaris - November 13, 2016 at 1:45 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Pat Mustard - November 13, 2016 at 2:06 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by abaris - November 13, 2016 at 2:13 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Pat Mustard - November 13, 2016 at 2:19 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by abaris - November 13, 2016 at 2:24 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by brewer - November 13, 2016 at 8:41 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by abaris - November 13, 2016 at 8:46 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Rhondazvous - November 13, 2016 at 11:06 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by brewer - November 13, 2016 at 11:43 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by abaris - November 13, 2016 at 11:51 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Rhondazvous - November 13, 2016 at 12:19 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by abaris - November 13, 2016 at 12:48 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Whateverist - November 13, 2016 at 8:52 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Rhondazvous - November 13, 2016 at 11:11 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Whateverist - November 13, 2016 at 11:46 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Minimalist - November 13, 2016 at 6:55 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Homeless Nutter - November 13, 2016 at 8:54 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by ukatheist - November 13, 2016 at 9:09 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by abaris - November 13, 2016 at 11:10 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 11:53 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 13, 2016 at 12:07 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Chad32 - November 13, 2016 at 1:13 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by abaris - November 13, 2016 at 1:16 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Opoponax - November 13, 2016 at 2:00 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Rhondazvous - November 13, 2016 at 2:25 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Chad32 - November 13, 2016 at 2:33 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by abaris - November 13, 2016 at 2:36 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Opoponax - November 13, 2016 at 3:30 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Chad32 - November 13, 2016 at 3:43 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by abaris - November 13, 2016 at 4:01 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Opoponax - November 13, 2016 at 4:40 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Rhondazvous - November 13, 2016 at 6:47 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by ScienceAf - November 13, 2016 at 2:35 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Rhondazvous - November 13, 2016 at 2:35 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by abaris - November 13, 2016 at 2:47 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Arkilogue - November 13, 2016 at 3:01 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by abaris - November 13, 2016 at 4:42 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Rhondazvous - November 13, 2016 at 7:16 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Jackalope - November 13, 2016 at 6:29 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by account_inactive - November 13, 2016 at 6:36 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by abaris - November 13, 2016 at 6:40 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by account_inactive - November 13, 2016 at 6:44 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by abaris - November 13, 2016 at 6:45 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by account_inactive - November 13, 2016 at 6:47 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by abaris - November 13, 2016 at 6:53 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Rhondazvous - November 13, 2016 at 7:53 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by abaris - November 13, 2016 at 7:56 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Bob Kelso - November 14, 2016 at 1:15 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by 8BitAtheist - November 14, 2016 at 11:15 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Drich - November 14, 2016 at 12:09 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Rhondazvous - November 15, 2016 at 3:07 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Drich - November 15, 2016 at 4:41 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Rhondazvous - November 15, 2016 at 8:15 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Drich - November 16, 2016 at 9:48 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Rhondazvous - November 16, 2016 at 6:57 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2016 at 12:42 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Tiberius - November 14, 2016 at 12:53 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by account_inactive - November 14, 2016 at 12:56 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Autumnlicious - November 14, 2016 at 12:57 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Drich - November 14, 2016 at 2:29 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by The Grand Nudger - November 14, 2016 at 1:01 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Minimalist - November 14, 2016 at 4:59 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Tonus - November 14, 2016 at 5:22 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 14, 2016 at 8:28 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Jackalope - November 14, 2016 at 8:34 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Gawdzilla Sama - November 15, 2016 at 8:51 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 15, 2016 at 4:45 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by abaris - November 15, 2016 at 5:14 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Pat Mustard - November 15, 2016 at 6:30 pm
Should We Resist Trump? - by KUSA - November 15, 2016 at 9:22 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Rhondazvous - November 16, 2016 at 6:40 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by vorlon13 - November 16, 2016 at 10:20 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Tonus - November 16, 2016 at 11:14 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Kingpin - November 16, 2016 at 11:33 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Rhondazvous - November 16, 2016 at 7:04 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by I_am_not_mafia - November 16, 2016 at 10:23 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by The Grand Nudger - November 16, 2016 at 11:55 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Doubting Thomas - November 16, 2016 at 1:45 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Rhondazvous - November 16, 2016 at 7:54 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by downbeatplumb - November 16, 2016 at 1:48 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by vorlon13 - November 16, 2016 at 6:59 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by vorlon13 - November 16, 2016 at 7:00 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Rhondazvous - November 16, 2016 at 8:06 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by vorlon13 - November 16, 2016 at 8:23 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Rhondazvous - November 17, 2016 at 8:01 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by abaris - November 17, 2016 at 8:52 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Rhondazvous - November 17, 2016 at 4:11 pm
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by Tonus - November 17, 2016 at 8:55 am
RE: Should We Resist Trump? - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2016 at 9:11 am

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