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Differences from societal norms
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RE: Differences from societal norms
(November 13, 2016 at 5:01 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:
(November 13, 2016 at 4:28 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: The loss of opportunity is a harm regardless of whether it is experienced or not. For example, you could not get a job because of a false rumor. You didn't know about the rumor. Nor did you know that you didn't get the job because of the rumor. Even still you were harmed by it.

Someone who is never born doesn't just fail to gain an opportunity (not technically a "loss" of opportunity because you can't lose what you've never had)... they don't have to suffer either. And again, if no one was born the world would stop being fucked up. Death=bad, not being born=neutral or good.

Hm? Death can happen before birth. As is evident by the many women who lose their babies while still pregnant with them. If they are far enough in gestational age, death is identified by the heart beat stopping. Heartbeat begins at 16 days after conception.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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Differences from societal norms - by robvalue - November 13, 2016 at 9:12 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by vorlon13 - November 13, 2016 at 9:18 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by vorlon13 - November 13, 2016 at 9:20 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 9:35 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Whateverist - November 13, 2016 at 9:36 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 9:37 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by paulpablo - November 13, 2016 at 9:39 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by paulpablo - November 13, 2016 at 9:37 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 9:42 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by vorlon13 - November 13, 2016 at 9:46 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by vorlon13 - November 13, 2016 at 9:47 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Full Circle - November 13, 2016 at 9:57 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by chimp3 - November 13, 2016 at 10:03 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 13, 2016 at 10:06 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 10:29 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by abaris - November 13, 2016 at 10:19 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Catholic_Lady - November 13, 2016 at 10:31 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Whateverist - November 13, 2016 at 10:40 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Excited Penguin - November 13, 2016 at 10:43 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 11:11 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - November 13, 2016 at 10:48 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Divinity - November 13, 2016 at 10:59 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by robvalue - November 13, 2016 at 11:08 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Catholic_Lady - November 13, 2016 at 11:12 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 11:35 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 11:22 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by abaris - November 13, 2016 at 11:29 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Catholic_Lady - November 13, 2016 at 11:32 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by abaris - November 13, 2016 at 11:36 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Excited Penguin - November 13, 2016 at 12:18 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 12:27 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Excited Penguin - November 13, 2016 at 12:19 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Excited Penguin - November 13, 2016 at 12:31 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Whateverist - November 13, 2016 at 12:53 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Excited Penguin - November 13, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 1:40 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Whateverist - November 13, 2016 at 4:56 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 5:02 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Excited Penguin - November 13, 2016 at 5:10 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Whateverist - November 13, 2016 at 5:17 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Excited Penguin - November 14, 2016 at 2:56 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 12:32 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Whateverist - November 13, 2016 at 12:54 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Excited Penguin - November 13, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 1:36 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Excited Penguin - November 13, 2016 at 1:44 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Neo-Scholastic - November 13, 2016 at 4:28 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 5:01 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Catholic_Lady - November 13, 2016 at 5:13 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2016 at 5:20 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by paulpablo - November 13, 2016 at 6:21 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Neo-Scholastic - November 14, 2016 at 11:26 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 17, 2016 at 1:06 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by brewer - November 13, 2016 at 1:38 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Catholic_Lady - November 13, 2016 at 4:17 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by brewer - November 13, 2016 at 4:34 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Catholic_Lady - November 13, 2016 at 5:08 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by brewer - November 13, 2016 at 5:12 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Regina - November 13, 2016 at 3:37 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by The Grand Nudger - November 13, 2016 at 3:41 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Aegon - November 13, 2016 at 3:44 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by AceBoogie - November 13, 2016 at 6:17 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by robvalue - November 14, 2016 at 2:54 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Bob Kelso - November 14, 2016 at 3:03 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Dystopia - November 14, 2016 at 8:33 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by robvalue - November 15, 2016 at 5:37 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Angrboda - November 14, 2016 at 10:29 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Catholic_Lady - November 17, 2016 at 1:15 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Edwardo Piet - November 17, 2016 at 10:25 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Autumnlicious - November 17, 2016 at 2:03 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by paulpablo - November 17, 2016 at 6:48 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Catholic_Lady - November 17, 2016 at 10:20 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Cecelia - November 17, 2016 at 2:05 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Little lunch - November 17, 2016 at 2:06 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by robvalue - November 17, 2016 at 2:35 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by The Grand Nudger - November 17, 2016 at 7:36 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Excited Penguin - November 17, 2016 at 10:03 am
RE: Differences from societal norms - by MJ the Skeptical - November 27, 2016 at 1:00 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by Regina - November 27, 2016 at 3:20 pm
RE: Differences from societal norms - by vorlon13 - November 27, 2016 at 10:17 pm

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