(November 13, 2016 at 5:13 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(November 13, 2016 at 5:01 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Someone who is never born doesn't just fail to gain an opportunity (not technically a "loss" of opportunity because you can't lose what you've never had)... they don't have to suffer either. And again, if no one was born the world would stop being fucked up. Death=bad, not being born=neutral or good.
Hm? Death can happen before birth. As is evident by the many women who lose their babies while still pregnant with them. If they are far enough in gestational age, death is identified by the heart beat stopping. Heartbeat begins at 16 days after conception.
What I mean is death to a fetus before birth is not the same as death to a baby after birth.