(November 16, 2016 at 7:12 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote:(November 15, 2016 at 9:51 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: Explicate please.
You used the argument from authority in favor of Plato
There's a reason why he's still taught ~2500 years on.
Quote:Quote:You're forgetting Aristotle......
(November 15, 2016 at 9:51 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: I thought he was a literary device?
Aristotle was a philosopher.
I was thinking Socrates. My apologies. Not sure why Aristotle has been brought up, but never mind.
Quote:Quote:And Kant went way way way beyond Plato.(November 15, 2016 at 9:51 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: Kant is the reincarnation of Plato.
Kant went far beyond Plato.
Agreed.
Quote:Quote:Dude like I said, the dilemma both imply a God.(November 15, 2016 at 9:51 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: So what? Are you scared by that or something?
It means it's a false dichotomy because the dilemma can be answered with "neither".
Quote: So it's a false dichotomy.(November 15, 2016 at 9:51 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: Feeling uncomfortable by merely contemplating a god doesn't make it false.
It's a false dichotomy because it can be answered with "neither".
Quote: The fact you can answer the dichotomy with the word "neither" means it's a false dichotomy.(November 15, 2016 at 9:51 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: No, because that answer isn't entertaining the idea. Your default position should be that this is an hypothetical (uh-oh), since your beliefs don't account for any god.
It doesn't matter if it's a hypothetical. The hypothetical is still a loaded question that can be answered with "neither" and hence it's a false dichotomy.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Explicate why it's neither. Go.
Quote:Quote: I don't understand why you and Rhythm are so inclined to only see your own beliefs being reflected in philosophical works.
Neither of you has grasped my basic modal logic here but at least unlike you he's not an idiot.
Are you sure it's not because it fails to be sound philosophy? Neither of you knuckleheads would be passing ethics 101 thus far, so I wouldn't be so quick to think you've got a coherent grasp of what you're saying.
Quote:Quote:Put down your beliefs, corner the question into an hypothetical cage so that poor you doesn't get hurt, and address the goddamned question head on. "But I don't like gawd" isn't going to fly, unless you like playing philosopher for funsies.
You're a fucking idiot. I've explained myself repeatedly already.
What a false dichotomy is:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
The dilemma gives you options that are mutually exclusive. There is no third option, but for the time being I'm suspending my belief until you can successfully explicate your absurd denial of the dilemma.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle