RE: Differences from societal norms
November 17, 2016 at 7:36 am
(This post was last modified: November 17, 2016 at 7:53 am by The Grand Nudger.)
The abortion debate centers around legal personhood, not whether or not something is a baby. Even after being born, we still don't grant that designation in full. You have to wait another 18 magical years, lol.
It goes like this.
1. A fetus does not have the status of a legal person. Therefore any discussion of the rights of a fetus is, forgive me...stillborn.
2. The mother does have the status of a legal person, and so her rights must be considered.
3. -If- there were conflicting rights involved, and there aren't, then we would still have to make a decision as to the compelling interest between parties, as we do, for example, during those 18 magical years after birth.
4. The compelling interest lies with the mother-to-not-be in all but the most far flung edge cases.
The stage of development is only relevant at step 1. When we consider why we do or don;t grant full or partial legal personhood. In the case of the vast majority of abortions, the fetus simply does not possess the characteristics upon which the designation finds it's foundation. In the case of late term abortions, exceedingly rare...the argument is that they might...but even then, and assuming that one concedes some status, it only becomes a question of compelling interest.
Should we, and -can- we force the mother to carry to term? Why, How? We'd have to lock her ass up....wouldn;t want her going out into an alley to find some asshole with a coathangar, now would we?
It goes like this.
1. A fetus does not have the status of a legal person. Therefore any discussion of the rights of a fetus is, forgive me...stillborn.
2. The mother does have the status of a legal person, and so her rights must be considered.
3. -If- there were conflicting rights involved, and there aren't, then we would still have to make a decision as to the compelling interest between parties, as we do, for example, during those 18 magical years after birth.
4. The compelling interest lies with the mother-to-not-be in all but the most far flung edge cases.
The stage of development is only relevant at step 1. When we consider why we do or don;t grant full or partial legal personhood. In the case of the vast majority of abortions, the fetus simply does not possess the characteristics upon which the designation finds it's foundation. In the case of late term abortions, exceedingly rare...the argument is that they might...but even then, and assuming that one concedes some status, it only becomes a question of compelling interest.
Should we, and -can- we force the mother to carry to term? Why, How? We'd have to lock her ass up....wouldn;t want her going out into an alley to find some asshole with a coathangar, now would we?
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