RE: Trump won the white working-man vote..
November 18, 2016 at 12:32 pm
(This post was last modified: November 18, 2016 at 12:39 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 18, 2016 at 12:26 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:Excellent, I'd love to get a source for that. Disparities in votes between Obama and Clinton doesn't actually tell us that those people voted Trump. I am, however, tickled at the idea that the dems lost 9 million votes to an overt campaign of bigotry and racism. Maybe yall didn't know yourselves as well as you thought you did? The reds have been calling yall the racists and bigots for some time....didn't take that seriously?Rhythm Wrote:I wonder how large that set is, lol?
I'm hearing over nine million.
Quote:In Michigan, she got 300,000 fewer votes than Obama did in 2012, 230,000 fewer in Wisconsin (Trump got exactly the same number of votes as Romney there). Clinton's black voter turnout dropped 11% compared to Obama's in 2012; she might have won North Carolina if blacks had turned out for her like they did for Obama. In Pennsylvania, the narrative of Trump stirring up working class voters in his favor has a little more going for it, he at least did better than Romney there.Sounds like those folks who stayed home and or voted third party.
Quote:I was shocked that against a man like Trump, Democrats couldn't get out the vote, even with a candidate with Clinton's unfavorable rating. I thought she was going to win. It is extremely important to understand why she lost and not make the same mistakes next time.I wasn't. As soon as I saw the KKK endorsement I knew he had the south, lol. I did, though, think she would win. She lost because she was a flawed candidate, and the other guy made certain promises that appealed to a certain demographic. Even then, she only lost narrowly (and only electorially) and with substantial help by the gutting of the voters rights act and with less-than-insignificant assistance from the DNC, the "news", and a certain federal agency.
Some of those things, I think, dems could probably fix. Others, not so much.
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