Trump won the white working-man vote..

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And yes, it was supposed to be a bit of a tease. I wasn't trying to argue with him or his point. You're the one freaking out over semantics, not me. I'm sorry you're so quick to dismiss me and take that comment as me defending bigots.

Does that make it any better in your opinion? I'm not saying it's good, but X, Y or Z isn't a race ....

Standard argument.

As usual, you're not defending bigots. You're just making their often repeated case. Obviously without even noticing. That's a tease?

What she is failing to see, is that she is falsely attaching her empathy as coming from a book or club, but they all do that. And that attaching your own nature to old myths instead of knowing we evolved with empathy, that allows them to justify their own positions while ignoring the bigotry of others, even under the same label.

"They all" FYI CL isn't about one label being wrong or right, but in that our species back then, and even now suffers far too much from false perceptions and justify them with very bad logic.

CL others here have said to me in chat that you are a very nice person. And our species ability for empathy is worldwide so it should never be attached automatically to ANY label. Where even liberals go wrong is doing the same thing violent people do, they fail to see that their claims of the source of their morality is different, but it is not.

In the contest of Religion both the Catholic and Baptist, white evangelical or black southern Baptist, still share the same two core heros of that book, regardless of their differences on interpretation or political views. Just like Sunnis and Shiites are still both Muslims with different interpretations of Islam. Just like a Chinese Buddhist and Tibet Buddhist and Shinto Buddhist are still all Buddhists.

In context of reality however, our morality as a species IS NOT coming from a different place. It is coming from evolution. It is why we know elephants mourn and just like humans, protect their young. Our species mistake is attaching morality to old books and old clubs.

I most certainly do think humans worldwide are capable of very great empathy and compassion, but at the same time unfortunately I know from history and news that we are also a species capable of very great cruelty. The only difference between a believer, be it Christian, or Muslim or Hindu,Jew  or even more earthy religions like Buddhism, is where the source of that morality is coming from. There is not one nation, friend or foe alike, that does not have prisons or hospitals. That says all anyone should need to know about the nature of our species and where morality is really coming from.