RE: On Moral Authorities
November 21, 2016 at 12:54 am
(This post was last modified: November 21, 2016 at 4:03 am by Losty.)
(November 20, 2016 at 11:47 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: I'm going to have to brush up on them. Aquinas can be a good read!
I agree. Maybe reading Dr. Edward Feser's "The Last Superstition" and "Aquinas" book can help you understand the underlying background in Aquinas writings which is very important in savoring his beautiful philosophy.
(November 20, 2016 at 11:47 pm)FallentoReason Wrote:Quote:It is not a lying to prevent persons know the things they don't have the right to know, right?
Surely you're preventing them from knowing *by* lying? How else would you describe your action?
It's like self-defense. Self-defense is not murder, as it is just protecting one's life against an unjust aggressor which in the process kills the latter. So with preventing to know the truth is not lying by not giving the accurate information to those who don't have the right to know it such as murderers. Both in that case we are not free to exercise the normal thing to do, because there is a prior abnormal thing already.
(November 20, 2016 at 11:47 pm)FallentoReason Wrote:Quote:Further, do we want to excuse lying with murder? I think that is not only a not very good excuse, but a very evil excuse.
Excuse lying with murder? What do you mean?
Well, I think can make myself understood by asking the following question. If the one looking for a person has the right to know the location of a person such as the police, do we need to withheld the information such that it can be like a lie externally? If no, it seems that we need to frame a situation where lying is not only that is possible, but also murder in order to excuse an act which is like lying.
(November 20, 2016 at 11:47 pm)FallentoReason Wrote:Quote:By the use of reason, many gods is false, for God, Whom is Pure Act, must be One.
This would be supporting Deism and not theism if the Bible happens to include a pantheon of gods. Just a friendly FYI.
I agree.
(November 20, 2016 at 11:47 pm)FallentoReason Wrote:Quote:Further, the quoted passages doesn't prove multiple gods. Can you give more passage that Elyon is God?
Well, Elyon isn't a person is he? I think the context of the passage is enough to know Elyon is divine, since in its place they put the "Most High". If Elyon was never divine, then the correction wouldn't make sense, since not only you're changing the identity but now also the fact that whoever this new person (Most High) is must also be divine, and not just a person.
I tried to search for Elyon and I found at it is not a mistranslation, but indeed a translation of the "Most Hight", per Wikipedia. Further, since Old Testament is indeed a forceful revelation of Monotheism, it is very unlikely that in one place, it will introduce multiple true gods. After all, that is God's plan so that in revelation of the Most Holy Trinity, they might not have been tempted to affirm that there are 3 gods just as there are multiple gods for the other nation.
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