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Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice?
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RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice?
(June 13, 2011 at 7:49 am)tackattack Wrote:
(June 11, 2011 at 2:52 pm)Castle Wrote: If I look at this from the upside and downside comparing Theist and Atheist

Over all Theist intellectually down side is being COWARDICE in the sense of lacking reason, logic and science
On the other hand
Atheist downside is the spiritual understanding, in which cowardice toward the open mind for imagination of the 99% spiritual unknowns World and Universe
So you're redefining cowardice to mean lacking reason, logic and science, and then just generally throwing on every theist..

Ok... got it ..

next..

I agree, I wouldn't say that those things are cowardice, you can lack those things (reason, logic, science) and be brave sure (One might joke that its harder for one to be brave WITH those things =P). However, I would class anybody who refuses to look at other arguments, any head-sand inserters as cowards. The brave delve into the unknown. That's not to say that everyone who was brought up to believe x (and let me just state for the record this includes those who were raise as anything, atheist, agnostic, deists, theists...) is a coward. But if/when they realise that they might be wrong and have only been presented with one side, they now have a choice to make. A) Investigate further, do some research, or b) ignore any doubts in favour of believing what makes them feel comfortable/what they were brought up believing because that's what everyone else important to them believes. The second choice? THAT'S cowardly (and lets be fair, that's probably the perception of theists among a lot of people (I know I've thought it))

Regarding refutation: A) Burden of proof and what-have-you, where's the evidence FOR the existence of whatever it is you're proposing exists? + what Nazz said a few posts up (Only minus the swearing =P). b) What is it that you're proposing? Did a quick search, 38 pages of posts, wasn't in your introduction, not really up to going through them to find where you explained you're beliefs. Mind chucking us a link to where you explained what your beliefs are?

@ castle: everything is connected? Depends on how connected we're talking, diving into things like monism, pantheism and pansychism. Yes you can believe in spiritual stuff as an atheist, the one thing you can't believe in, by definition (As an atheist; protecting myself from quote miners here), is a god/s, as someone else on here has said, the raelians are atheists, all atheism is is: "A) the lack of belief in a god or gods, B) believing that no god or gods exist". Of the four horsemen I'd wager that Sam Harris is the one down your alley, look him up. There are different broad types/subgroups of atheists, the ones you're talking about could be the rationalists/skeptics.

A really good autotuned song (no really) "we're all connected". I LOVE THE SYMPHONY OF SCIENCE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGK84Poeynk
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Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - May 10, 2011 at 4:29 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - May 10, 2011 at 4:47 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - May 10, 2011 at 5:02 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by fr0d0 - May 10, 2011 at 5:07 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Welsh cake - May 10, 2011 at 4:43 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - May 10, 2011 at 4:56 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Gawdzilla - May 10, 2011 at 4:45 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - May 10, 2011 at 5:21 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Minimalist - May 10, 2011 at 5:11 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Ace Otana - May 10, 2011 at 5:23 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Minimalist - May 10, 2011 at 5:25 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - May 10, 2011 at 5:33 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - May 13, 2011 at 3:50 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Gawdzilla - May 10, 2011 at 5:46 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by bozo - May 10, 2011 at 5:54 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - May 10, 2011 at 6:08 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by bozo - May 10, 2011 at 6:12 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - May 10, 2011 at 6:20 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Minimalist - May 10, 2011 at 6:31 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Rayaan - May 10, 2011 at 6:59 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by padraic - May 10, 2011 at 7:41 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Cinjin - May 11, 2011 at 3:25 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by theVOID - May 11, 2011 at 4:14 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Maria - May 11, 2011 at 6:33 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Tiberius - May 11, 2011 at 6:54 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by tackattack - May 11, 2011 at 11:28 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by krazedkat - May 12, 2011 at 9:53 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Gawdzilla - May 12, 2011 at 11:43 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Eudaimonia - May 13, 2011 at 10:17 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by padraic - May 13, 2011 at 8:52 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - May 14, 2011 at 6:25 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by padraic - May 14, 2011 at 5:20 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - May 14, 2011 at 1:52 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Gawdzilla - May 14, 2011 at 4:28 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - May 14, 2011 at 5:16 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by padraic - May 15, 2011 at 12:37 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Arcturus - May 15, 2011 at 4:10 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Atheist Jew - June 10, 2011 at 6:04 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by tackattack - June 11, 2011 at 5:23 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Atheist Jew - June 11, 2011 at 7:04 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by tackattack - June 11, 2011 at 7:48 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Castle - June 11, 2011 at 2:52 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by tackattack - June 13, 2011 at 7:49 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Castle - June 13, 2011 at 4:17 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Darth - June 14, 2011 at 3:53 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Castle - June 14, 2011 at 4:42 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Rhizomorph13 - June 13, 2011 at 12:42 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Atheist Jew - June 12, 2011 at 8:43 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by nazz1138 - June 13, 2011 at 6:36 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by tackattack - June 14, 2011 at 12:30 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Castle - June 14, 2011 at 3:29 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by tackattack - June 15, 2011 at 7:01 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Theistsbane - July 11, 2011 at 9:47 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Rhizomorph13 - July 11, 2011 at 10:45 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by thebigfudge - July 11, 2011 at 11:07 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - July 11, 2011 at 5:30 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by thebigfudge - July 11, 2011 at 12:44 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Ashendant - July 12, 2011 at 7:40 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by nelsots - August 16, 2011 at 1:47 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Minimalist - August 16, 2011 at 2:19 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Godnose - August 16, 2011 at 9:00 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Minimalist - August 16, 2011 at 2:05 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by padraic - August 17, 2011 at 12:32 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Godnose - August 17, 2011 at 11:20 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Anomalocaris - August 17, 2011 at 8:36 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2011 at 11:22 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - August 20, 2011 at 5:18 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Faith No More - August 20, 2011 at 5:41 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by diffidus - August 22, 2011 at 11:44 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by padraic - August 17, 2011 at 8:33 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by downbeatplumb - August 22, 2011 at 12:48 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Godnose - August 22, 2011 at 1:19 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Math - August 22, 2011 at 7:55 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by KichigaiNeko - August 23, 2011 at 10:22 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by reverendjeremiah - August 23, 2011 at 12:12 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Skepsis - September 17, 2012 at 4:27 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by notfussed - September 17, 2012 at 1:23 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Angrboda - September 17, 2012 at 5:08 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Brian37 - September 17, 2012 at 7:11 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by frankiej - September 17, 2012 at 7:24 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Whateverist - September 29, 2012 at 12:20 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 17, 2012 at 6:21 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Brian37 - September 17, 2012 at 6:41 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 17, 2012 at 8:38 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Oregon Alley Cat - September 20, 2012 at 10:43 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Polaris - September 20, 2012 at 10:51 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Darkstar - September 24, 2012 at 10:33 pm
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by The Grand Nudger - September 21, 2012 at 12:16 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Polaris - September 21, 2012 at 1:55 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by genkaus - September 21, 2012 at 11:00 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by The Grand Nudger - September 21, 2012 at 3:12 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by Angrboda - September 21, 2012 at 5:56 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by CapnAwesome - September 24, 2012 at 12:59 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by The Grand Nudger - September 24, 2012 at 8:13 am
RE: Is Atheism Intellectual Cowardice? - by System of Solace - September 24, 2012 at 10:26 pm
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