RE: The Newly Departed thread: announcements (departures)
December 5, 2016 at 11:48 am
(This post was last modified: December 5, 2016 at 11:55 am by Edwardo Piet.)
(December 5, 2016 at 5:01 am)Nymphadora Wrote: [...]
And it relates to what I was saying elsewhere. Essentially, no one can say anything unless its good.
This is such utter bullshit. I have never said that people can't agree with me or only have to say nice things. It's fine for people to disagree with me. It's fine for them to think what I'm saying is bullshit. It's fine for me to think what they're saying is bullshit.
Quote:Constructive criticism gets taken the wrong way and then we're left with all this over analyzing of things and (for lack of a better way of saying it), we are made responsible for the feelings of others.
Taken the wrong way? Basically if I don't agree with your criticism then you label me as not liking criticism. It's horseshit. I openly encourage both agreement and disagreement. All I want is honest expression.
You mistake my disagreement as me saying "don't disagree with me" and my disagreement with your criticism as me saying "don't criticize me". It's such horseshit because I've never told anyone that they have to agree with me or they shouldn't criticize me. I am not responsible for your incorrectly thinking that I'm saying that when I categorically haven't said that anywhere and in fact I'm saying the exact opposite like I am now. It's like the bullshit about me guilt-tripping you merely because I expressed how I felt.
In fact ironically, it's the exact opposite. We can't disagree without you labelling me as having a problem with disagreement. I have to agree with your criticism or you say I can't handle it. It's always the case of the other fucker projecting onto me their own inability to handle my stubborn disagreement or rejection of criticism. Guess what... no one has to agree with each other's opinions or criticism and it doesn't matter how often it doesn't mean the person has a problem with disagreement merely because they don't agree. In fact, it's the person who wrongly labels people who don't agree with criticism as unable to handle it that has a problem with disagreement and can't handle it.
Quote: No. We aren't. I can't make anyone else feel a certain way.
...and yet you say I'm 'guilt-tripping' you and playing the martyr and the victim merely when I express my own feelings. Ironic.
Quote: If my words want to be taken out of context, That's on the reader. I shouldn't have to spend pages explaining or apologizing for what I said when its clear from the get go, what was meant.
Out of context my ass. I can't express how I feel without you labelling like I'm guilt-tripping you or I'm playing the victim or I'm being childish. You claim that I can't handle any constructive criticism when I've never ever said I can't handle it or that I don't want it. All I do is disagree with it. It's so fucking self-serving to act like I can't handle something merely because I don't agree with it. It's obviously you who has a problem with disagreement because merely by my disagreeing with your criticism you label me as not being able to handle it. Such utter bullshit.
You'll probably act like me saying "bullshit" or seeming irrate means I couldn't handle this criticism from you either. Guess what? You can say what I think is bullshit too and that's fine. That's the point. We're allowed to disagree. It's really really silly for you to say I don't want disagreement or criticism when I say the exact opposite and you're interpreting it that way merely because I don't agree with you which is incredibly ironic.
What I don't like is being misrepresented and wrongly accused. You're the one who can't handle disagreement because you say I can't handle what you're saying merely because I disagree with you.
Fuck knows how poorly you'll handle my criticism of you when you can't even handle the fact I disagree with yours.
Quote:I am only responsible for what I say, not what others choose to understand.
Yes.
The point is... you offer criticism. I disagree with it. I get told I can't handle it. It's extremely ironic because you just can't handle that I don't agree with it. Guess what, it's fine if we disagree and don't accept each other's criticism.
It's hilariously ironic projection that if I don't agree with criticism then I have a problem with disagreement LOL. You're basically saying unless I agree with you then I have a problem with anyone who disagrees with me...LOL. You're the one who has a problem with my not agreeing with your criticism. Guess what? I don't have to agree with you. Nor do you with me. In fact, you can disagree with me that it's true that you are the one who has a problem with disagreement. But it's patently obvious what the facts are. When I'm outright saying I'm fine with it and you're basing my having a problem with criticism on the fact I don't agree with it then that demonstrates that you're the one who has a problem with disagreement because you're saying I have a problem with it merely because I don't agree with you.
So... you make no sense.