(December 6, 2016 at 12:35 pm)Whateverist Wrote:(December 6, 2016 at 12:21 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Obviously, a person crying out to god for help feeding their children is about as open to the divine as anyone can get. Some end up believing that god answers their prayers...and why not, scripture says he does, the pulpit says he does...even if the pulpit knows better than to write checks their gods ass can't cash explicitly. They all vaguely felate intercessionary prayer and the power of prayer, and as to the question you asked.....it;s non- negotiable for a catholic...they have to believe in the communion and intercession of saints. That someone else can plead with god on your behalf to"open the door". Catechism and all that, lol.
You're asking the wrong person for "catholic beliefs" when you ask Cath. She has her beliefs, which are frequently at odds with the catechism and of the cannonization of saints (whose miracles are all "confirmed" by the church and very often presented themselves as real goods in response to pious prayer)....as are the beliefs of many, probably even most "catholics". Even the church understands this. They constantly bemoan their adherents general lack of knowledge in the faith and dabbling in personal and foreign ideologies.
Of course I'm always going to root for those rebels who insist on it making sense to them and not blindly toeing the line.
For the record, I am not one of them. Not a single one of my beliefs are at odds with Catholicism.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh
