(December 6, 2016 at 12:09 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Prayers seem to fall very broadly into the categories of thanksgiving , supplication, and intercession.According to Whom?
According to Christ When directly asked He gave a singular example and response:
Quote:Now Jesus[a] was praying in a certain place, and when he finished, one of his disciples said to him, “Lord, teach us to pray, as John taught his disciples.” 2 And he said to them, “When you pray, say:This is recognition. This is acknowledging who God is in relation to you. In short this is a call to respect or even worship God.
“Father, hallowed be your name.
Quote:Your kingdom come.Your Kingdom Come... Is To earnestly ask For God's will to be respected and followed on earth as it is in Heaven.
Think about that for a moment... Where in the bible does this sort of obediance take place outside the garden here on earth?
The book of Revelation. In short you are learning to ask for the end of the reign of man, and usher in the Reign of Christ.
So God's Will on Earth= All of the good and Bad of the book of Revelation.
Outside of the Joker or maybe Cobra Commander I don't know anyone who naturally wishes for this.
Quote:3This is the only point where we are directed to ask for anything, which is also limited to our daily needs.
Give us each day our daily bread,[b]
Quote:4This part of the prayer is us asking God to forgive our sins to the same measure or degree we can for give others.
and forgive us our sins,
for we ourselves forgive everyone who is indebted to us.
Quote:And lead us not into temptation.”
What, precisely, is there to thank God for? Since God created and maintains the universe, and cannot act in a manner contrary to his nature, then there is either no point in thanking God for rainbows and kitten videos on YouTube, or you should be as quick to offer thanks for the Oakland fire, or for the mudslide that destroyed [insert name of desperately poor village here]. All of these are inclusive in the will of God, so what is the point of being thankful?
Supplicatory prayers are pretty nonsensical as well-God already knows who worships him and who doesn't. How does offering up this sort of prayer make a difference?
And asking God to intercede in human affairs strikes me as pretty arrogant. Since nothing happens that cannot be part of the divine plan, prayers like these aren't going to change anything; you're not going to win the lottery, nor is great uncle Frim's testicular boil going to disappear based on your prayers. These things are going to happen or not, regardless.
Praying is just,well, stupid.
Boru
Prayers of thanksgiving is just thanks giving.
Prayers of supplication are just supplication
Prayers of intercession are just you asking God to interceeds.
Likewise prayers of petion are just you wishing.
Just because we put a Dear lord at the beginning of what we want and end it with Jesus name we pray, or just because we close our eyes or bow our heads does not a prayer make.
There is only one official Prayer and it is not about changing God's mind or getting Him to do anything for us. It is about us, changing our hearts and minds to serve Him.
That said once we learn to pray, God will hear our petitions, supplications and whatevers.