RE: Prayer
December 8, 2016 at 3:52 pm
(This post was last modified: December 8, 2016 at 3:53 pm by Drich.)
(December 6, 2016 at 6:17 pm)Asmodee Wrote:Not at all I was just uninformed/ignorant to the answers of those questions. Seemingly so to are you but are blissfully unaware.(December 6, 2016 at 5:18 pm)Drich Wrote: Forgive My ignorance... Who are to identify need as death? Why is Heaven the only goal? What of those like you who remain after we have gone? Who says this life is unimportant? In what book chapter or verse does it say that life is unimportant? that anything we are given is unimportant??? Who's is saying that we can fuck up anything once we have the atonement Christ offers?Hit a nerve did I?
Seems to me you assume too much. Maybe you should ask some more basic questions.
Quote: Christianity is, at its core, a method of getting into Heaven.Uh, no.
Jesus is the only method to Heaven. Christianity sells what it thinks is a way to Christ.
Quote: That is the ultimate goal of being a Christian, THE single, most important thing one can hope for.
Then what?
So, no because anything that comes after "then what" becomes a greater goal. Because the goal is Heaven Plus.... That Plus is call a relationship. That is the greatest goal. Heaven is simply the convention or exhibitor's hall where the convention takes place.
Quote:I suppose those like me who remain after you're gone will spend a week or so just basking in the glory of ignorance taken, and then get to work fixing all the shit "good Christians" have fucked up over the years.Like in the height of power for China, North Korea or Russia? (Places where Christianity has been abolished for a time?)
Quote: I'm pretty sure there will be boobies out at the party and I can't wait!Hey retard, 'religion' is just an excuse for power hungry people use to justify their own brand of self righteousness. Take away religion that does not remove self righteousness from the population, they simply call it by a different name. Here in this culture you all call it 'Morality." In eastern cultures you identify it as totalitarianism.
Quote:As for where it says anything we are given is unimportant, I made no claim of the Bible saying shit.But you did.. You claimed that life to the believer is unimportant. We only have the bible to source, therefore you claim must be rooted in and vetted by the bible.
Quote:But when you consider the temporary vs the eternal, one seems irrelevant compared to the other. If my teenage daughter comes home with a "temporary tattoo", that is unimportant. If she comes home with a "tattoo", I have to kill someone. Use some common sense. I'm an atheist. I probably don't get my beliefs from an ancient book written by goat herders who wiped their asses with their bare hands and then thought rinsing them in a mud puddle was good enough.Again book chapter and verse?
How does it sit right in your mind to make a claim that you know is not true. yet use said claim, to justify your beliefs against that very text that does not support what you claim it does?
Quote:As for who says we can fuck up anything once we have atonement, maybe you're in one of those "once saved, always saved" bullshit religions. I don't know. But I'm pretty sure that if, after you're saved, you start raping dogs and killing babies you and Hitler aren't going to carpool to Heaven at the end of days. And if you are in one of those once saved, always saved religions, relax, dude! You got this! Go out and get yourself a raging case of the herpes. Hitler's warming up the car for you right now, I'm sure. You're covered, so stop sweating the little shit like obeying God's will and whatnot.What makes you think, that salvation has anything to do with this life? That we can even be 'saved' in this life?
(December 6, 2016 at 6:46 pm)chimp3 Wrote:(December 6, 2016 at 10:14 am)Drich Wrote: So you would condemn all of Christianity because one branch acts in a way you would deem foolish?
I am not condemning anyone.
then why can't you accept what i had to say as being a valid response?