Quote:You failed to understand my example here as you do with many others.I responded to the question at hand. Don't even bother trying to evade it.
Your response is filled with false assumptions that don't even come close to understanding my questions.
Quote:What makes a chemical reaction exist if there is no purpose?Uncollected matter and energy. We consume food, that food is transferred throughout the body and the brain produces them. Don't need a purpose in order to exist.
Quote:So wouldn't an evolutionary purpose to survive have motivation to survive?Motivation? More along the lines of following nature. Good try with the deviation there.
Quote:What purpose would it have to survive if it has nothing to pursue?Pass on genes for the next generation. That's about it. Why? You think life needs a special purpose or something?
Quote:Nope. You will.Still waiting for it though aren't I?
Quote:I believe you do not understand what relative is.I believe you don't understand what reality is.
Quote:Incorrect. It is logical and evident. It cannot be denied and only misunderstood.Uh-huh.
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Quote:Detecting something is a different subject though it can be related.No, it's on topic. Your just deviating a little here.
Quote:Not quite. Life that practices evolution and the co-existence of other matter and energy experiences this process thus practices experience.If life couldn't detect and adapt to it's environment, it would never need to evolve. There is no concept in evolution, only mutation.
If you don't experience adaptation, co-existence of other matter and energy then that process of knowledge would only be conceptual.
Quote:How would it exists by natural events if there was no purpose to create them natural events?The universe doesn't need a purpose to exist.
Quote:Yet your explanations make more sense with nothing that could explain them?It's not like your making any sense.
Quote:If there was no greater purpose to anything then why would one care?Because we are sapient and we desire to be more than we are.

Quote:I have certainly proven that you do not understand what a relative universe or realm is.Enlighten me.
Quote:If nothing was meant for us then why do we have the ability to experience the relative?Don't you mean our natural environment? We can "experience" our environment because it's required for our existence. No special purpose.
Quote:Your perception of things as you describe are meaningless which includes your own existence.I'm ok with that.

Quote:Fair enough then.In a relative realm? Thought you were the one to blab on about that bit?
Explain then how natural events exist in a relative realm that makes experience possible.
Quote:Then explain how experience has no purpose.It's utterly meaningless. It's not about purpose. I experience heat and cold because I can detect them. Simple as. No law or greater purpose required.
Quote:If everything everywhere was only cold how would you know what cold is if that is all there is?My body's temperature functions at 37 degrees Celsius. If my body detected temperatures greater than that, then I'll experience heat without having to first experience cold.
I'm working with everything you mentioned.
There is no purpose to heat or cold. They are natural states of energy. That's all.
Quote:Your knowledge of it would be conceptual because you don't know what is "not" cold.Knowing of hot or cold is simply being aware of different energy states. Where's that big special purpose bit supposed to come in? Different energy states are there not simply for us to experience, but are there by nature.
You have the delusion that there's a purpose to everything, when in fact, hardly anything has a purpose to it. This universe was not made for us.
Quote:I would only know here and there as a concept because everything would be only here.So being aware of distance involves a purpose as well does it?
Quote:This why the relative realm exists. To make experience possible for life.It makes no sense at all mate. You have confused natural states of energy and space with the need for purpose. That's all you've really done.
Debunked!

Quote:If you still do not see it then tell me how experience is possible.Being able to detect different energy states. Energy states that are governed by laws of nature.
Quote:I think my last answer above, answers all of these.Oh good, because I've just blew'em apart.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.