Theists: How can predetermined fate and free will coexist?

[purplepurpose]

I don't think it's voluntarily. It's indoctrinated into them, on the whole. They can't simply discard it. It takes a huge feat of bravery to challenge the beliefs, and eventually work through them to the point where they can be discounted.

If your talking about belief, where your ordered to kill people in the Gods name, that's fairly easy, especially if your promised heaven if you die. You take a part in a successful conquest - you will be rewarded. You die- rewarded. That's easy to believe in.

But, if we are talking about belief, where you must strive to be more selfless, even if your fed an idea of hell for refusing it, it sounds f hard, because its valuable, even if indoctrination is in the mix.

Atheism is "soft" compared to the idea of "selfless or burn".