RE: Trump and Conservatism As A Threat: What Should Be Done?
December 15, 2016 at 2:35 pm
(This post was last modified: December 15, 2016 at 2:49 pm by Secular Elf.)
(December 15, 2016 at 12:26 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:(December 15, 2016 at 10:38 am)Chad32 Wrote: The DNC hasn't really given us candidates worth voting for. Bernie got people voting, but the DNC actually fought against him. The republican party is really bad, but the democratic party isn't much better. They're obviously not interested in winning, and pulling the spectrum back.
This is such crap. They didn't give you an exciting presidential candidate. They pushed a centrist policy wonk with ties to Wall St. but who by every measure is leagues better than the dumpster fire we have now.
People need to be inspired by their candidate to stop an international train wreck? To show up and vote for Democratic down ballot candidates to shore up liberal policies in their state/national governments?
No. Most liberals are straight, educated white people who are supporters of a lot of liberal issues, but will have no real change in their life if things go bad for minorities and LGBT people. It's not that they don't care, it's that it really won't affect them, and there's not a lot of urgency. Which is why they have the luxury of waxing poetic about Hillary's flaws and the DNC while Donald Trump is appointing Steve Bannon.
Lately I have heard commented on C-SPAN and The View that part of the problem of the DNC is that it does not really spend time on courting rural voters. The observation is that the key to winning the hearts and minds of people is actually going to meet them where they are at and listening to their concerns and problems. Having thought about that it actually makes good sense. I think the Clinton campaign made the mistake of not doing enough of that in the heartland of America. It was interesting how it all broke down with the Electoral College map: East and West coasts were blue, most every state in the middle red. I do think the Democratic Party has veered away from courting the middle and lower classes, who they have traditionally helped and gave voice too. In addition to that, I think low voter turnout is a problem that goes hand in hand with that observation.
(December 13, 2016 at 5:45 pm)Faith No More Wrote: If only our conservatives actually practiced fiscal responsibility. Like everything else that comes out of their mouths, it's total bullshit.
As for Trump, I wouldn't really worry about the dominionists or any sort religious issue. I'm more worried about him strengthening the oligarchy and eroding the middle class.
I wouldn't underestimate the Dominionists. They are very serious about establishing Biblical Law as THE law. No matter how small a group the Dominionist/Christian Reconstructionists are they still pose a serious threat if they manage to gain political and governmental power. And they are serious about killing people that they hold as undesirables:
"Why stoning? There are many reasons. First, the implements of execution are available to everyone at virtually no cost.” Thrift and ubiquity aside, “executions are community projects–not with spectators who watch a professional executioner do `his’ duty, but rather with actual participants. That modern Christians never consider the possibility of the reintroduction of stoning for capital crimes, indicates how thoroughly humanistic concepts of punishment have influenced the thinking of Christians.” -- Gary North, Reconstruction leader
Source: http://www.capitolhilloutsider.com/ted-c...ism-rally/
Also there is the 7 Mountains Mandate: https://www.generals.org/rpn/the-seven-mountains/
They are serious about this stuff, and we had all better take them seriously as a serious threat.
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."--Thomas Jefferson