Ah, such heady conversations in this thread. So many ways people are trying to get around predetermined destiny when the future is known and, thus, set.
Let's look at multiple timelines briefly and say they're a factor. God either A, does not know which one will come to pass and is, thus, not all-knowing or B, does know which one will be "the" timeline once the future becomes the present and eventually the past, in which case multiple timelines become irrelevant because while there are technically multiple "possibilities", in each and every case one is an eventuality, the others will remain forever unfulfilled. So while multiple timelines would be "possible" from our perspective they are either "impossible" from the perspective of a god or that god is not "all knowing". Remember, when it's all said and done and it has become the past, there is only one timeline. Possible branches are not part of the past from any given perspective. What that means is that they don't technically exist at all. At no point in the past, present or future do any unfulfilled "possibilities" exist. Multiple timelines are an abstract, not a reality by any measure.
Jehovah's Witnesses get around this by saying that God COULD know the future, but he "chooses not to". The problem with that is that God is still not "all knowing". All powerful, yes, but if he chooses not to know something then he is not all-knowing. Another problem with that is, of course, that it's simply made up to get around a problem with no supporting evidence to suggest that it's true.
So we are right back to square one. If any entity in the universe knows what is coming with perfect knowledge that thing becomes unavoidable, destiny, fate. Even if that entity chooses not to know the fact that it is knowable makes it fate. It can't be knowable unless it is destined to happen.
Let's look at multiple timelines briefly and say they're a factor. God either A, does not know which one will come to pass and is, thus, not all-knowing or B, does know which one will be "the" timeline once the future becomes the present and eventually the past, in which case multiple timelines become irrelevant because while there are technically multiple "possibilities", in each and every case one is an eventuality, the others will remain forever unfulfilled. So while multiple timelines would be "possible" from our perspective they are either "impossible" from the perspective of a god or that god is not "all knowing". Remember, when it's all said and done and it has become the past, there is only one timeline. Possible branches are not part of the past from any given perspective. What that means is that they don't technically exist at all. At no point in the past, present or future do any unfulfilled "possibilities" exist. Multiple timelines are an abstract, not a reality by any measure.
Jehovah's Witnesses get around this by saying that God COULD know the future, but he "chooses not to". The problem with that is that God is still not "all knowing". All powerful, yes, but if he chooses not to know something then he is not all-knowing. Another problem with that is, of course, that it's simply made up to get around a problem with no supporting evidence to suggest that it's true.
So we are right back to square one. If any entity in the universe knows what is coming with perfect knowledge that thing becomes unavoidable, destiny, fate. Even if that entity chooses not to know the fact that it is knowable makes it fate. It can't be knowable unless it is destined to happen.
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