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Request from a Christian.
RE: Request from a Christian.
(January 1, 2017 at 4:41 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(January 1, 2017 at 12:38 pm)Astonished Wrote: My question to the OP, with all due respect and sincerity is, are you seriously ignorant of the realities of what you're asking?

Forcing children to sit through long, boring, sometimes horrifying church sessions.

Telling children they're wicked, dirty, evil, etc.

Hearing them tell you 'You can't change my mind'. The arrogance!

Teaching them that love is conditional. Way to warp their mentality for life.

Managing to be seemingly deluded about how awful people can treat others in the name of their faith. Sickening ignorance.



Seriously, read a book like God is Not Great. Hitchens is much more eloquent than most.

Just wanna point out that this has not been my experience at all, growing up in the faith. Im sorry for/to anyone who has had horrible experiences in the faith as a child. But it is important to point out that there are many who's experiences has been very positive, and it isnt right to group us all into the worst possible scenario. I plan on raising my future children up in the faith as I was, if im lucky enough to have any. and I dont plan on anything that is on that list.


That and I think it is good to remember people were pretty brutal to one another not that long ago.  When the catholic church was so powerful it wasn't unusual to visit horrible revenge on others.  For all the horrible things the catholic church has done through the years it is hard to be sure there wouldn't have been as much or even more of it without the church.  People have been really mean sons of bitches.
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Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - December 31, 2016 at 5:01 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 31, 2016 at 5:20 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by account_inactive - December 31, 2016 at 8:45 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 31, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by account_inactive - December 31, 2016 at 5:31 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 31, 2016 at 5:49 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by account_inactive - December 31, 2016 at 6:12 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 31, 2016 at 6:20 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by account_inactive - December 31, 2016 at 6:23 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by downbeatplumb - December 31, 2016 at 5:22 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by account_inactive - December 31, 2016 at 7:39 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by downbeatplumb - December 31, 2016 at 8:33 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Jesster - December 31, 2016 at 5:27 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Alex K - December 31, 2016 at 6:50 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Jesster - December 31, 2016 at 7:01 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by paulpablo - December 31, 2016 at 7:38 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by chimp3 - December 31, 2016 at 7:49 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - December 31, 2016 at 8:01 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by chimp3 - December 31, 2016 at 8:02 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Joods - December 31, 2016 at 8:45 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by brewer - December 31, 2016 at 9:53 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Jesster - December 31, 2016 at 10:44 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by ignoramus - December 31, 2016 at 11:02 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - December 31, 2016 at 11:14 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Alex K - December 31, 2016 at 11:22 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by AFTT47 - January 2, 2017 at 1:44 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by chimp3 - December 31, 2016 at 11:33 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Cyberman - December 31, 2016 at 11:23 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Cyberman - December 31, 2016 at 11:39 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Jesster - December 31, 2016 at 11:43 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Whateverist - December 31, 2016 at 12:11 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Catholic_Lady - December 31, 2016 at 12:19 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by chimp3 - December 31, 2016 at 12:33 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Brian37 - December 31, 2016 at 12:47 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Minimalist - December 31, 2016 at 2:10 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Whateverist - January 1, 2017 at 1:04 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Cyberman - January 1, 2017 at 2:57 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Macoleco - December 31, 2016 at 3:26 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Alex K - December 31, 2016 at 4:48 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 6:35 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Alex K - January 1, 2017 at 6:39 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by downbeatplumb - January 1, 2017 at 7:33 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Joods - January 1, 2017 at 9:42 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Mystical - January 1, 2017 at 12:02 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 12:28 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Mr Greene - January 1, 2017 at 1:24 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Whateverist - January 1, 2017 at 1:28 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Pat Mustard - January 5, 2017 at 6:10 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by pocaracas - January 5, 2017 at 6:38 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Brian37 - January 1, 2017 at 1:51 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Catholic_Lady - January 1, 2017 at 4:49 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Alex K - December 31, 2016 at 6:49 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Catholic_Lady - December 31, 2016 at 6:53 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by robvalue - December 31, 2016 at 9:00 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Brian37 - December 31, 2016 at 9:19 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 6:40 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by AceBoogie - January 1, 2017 at 7:24 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by robvalue - December 31, 2016 at 9:31 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Mystical - December 31, 2016 at 11:02 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 5:57 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by chimp3 - January 1, 2017 at 7:35 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by pocaracas - January 1, 2017 at 8:43 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 8:54 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by pocaracas - January 1, 2017 at 9:12 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 9:45 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by pocaracas - January 1, 2017 at 5:04 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 5:14 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 10:04 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by chimp3 - January 1, 2017 at 10:15 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Whateverist - January 1, 2017 at 1:23 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 1:30 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Pat Mustard - January 5, 2017 at 6:30 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Brian37 - January 2, 2017 at 7:31 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 2, 2017 at 7:57 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Brian37 - January 2, 2017 at 8:53 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Alex K - January 1, 2017 at 6:32 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by AceBoogie - January 1, 2017 at 6:33 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by brewer - January 1, 2017 at 8:46 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by mlmooney89 - January 1, 2017 at 9:13 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Joods - January 1, 2017 at 10:03 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by mlmooney89 - January 1, 2017 at 10:20 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 10:47 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by mlmooney89 - January 1, 2017 at 11:32 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 12:15 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by mlmooney89 - January 1, 2017 at 11:18 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 11:22 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Cyberman - January 1, 2017 at 12:21 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 12:36 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by vorlon13 - January 1, 2017 at 12:55 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 1, 2017 at 12:38 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Catholic_Lady - January 1, 2017 at 4:41 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 4:49 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Cyberman - January 1, 2017 at 4:54 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 5:00 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 1, 2017 at 5:01 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 5:05 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 1, 2017 at 5:11 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Catholic_Lady - January 1, 2017 at 5:11 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 1, 2017 at 5:15 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 5:19 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Catholic_Lady - January 1, 2017 at 5:29 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 5:36 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Cyberman - January 1, 2017 at 5:55 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 6:04 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Rhondazvous - January 1, 2017 at 6:41 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by rexbeccarox - January 1, 2017 at 6:22 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Catholic_Lady - January 1, 2017 at 6:26 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by rexbeccarox - January 1, 2017 at 6:38 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Catholic_Lady - January 1, 2017 at 6:49 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by chimp3 - January 1, 2017 at 6:59 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Pat Mustard - January 5, 2017 at 8:21 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Mr Greene - January 6, 2017 at 3:46 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Pat Mustard - January 6, 2017 at 4:39 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Cyberman - January 1, 2017 at 5:10 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Catholic_Lady - January 1, 2017 at 5:03 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 1, 2017 at 4:50 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Catholic_Lady - January 1, 2017 at 4:55 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Whateverist - January 1, 2017 at 7:11 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Rhondazvous - January 1, 2017 at 7:55 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 7:57 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Rhondazvous - January 2, 2017 at 10:32 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Mystical - January 1, 2017 at 12:57 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 1:07 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Mystical - January 1, 2017 at 10:23 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 1, 2017 at 10:30 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 12:58 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by vorlon13 - January 1, 2017 at 1:16 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by vorlon13 - January 1, 2017 at 1:18 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by brewer - January 1, 2017 at 1:36 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 1:39 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by brewer - January 1, 2017 at 1:45 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 1, 2017 at 1:13 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 1:19 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 1:17 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Whateverist - January 1, 2017 at 1:45 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 1:52 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 1, 2017 at 2:00 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 2:15 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 1, 2017 at 2:29 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 2:39 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 1, 2017 at 2:46 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Cyberman - January 1, 2017 at 2:57 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 3:11 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Cyberman - January 1, 2017 at 4:42 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Mister Agenda - January 6, 2017 at 11:03 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 2:12 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by rexbeccarox - January 1, 2017 at 2:13 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 2:54 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 1, 2017 at 3:41 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 3:52 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 1, 2017 at 3:58 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 4:11 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Rhondazvous - January 1, 2017 at 5:31 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by chimp3 - January 1, 2017 at 6:36 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 7:05 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by chimp3 - January 1, 2017 at 7:09 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by chimp3 - January 1, 2017 at 7:13 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 7:18 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by chimp3 - January 1, 2017 at 7:21 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 7:24 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Cyberman - January 1, 2017 at 9:56 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 1, 2017 at 7:25 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Whateverist - January 1, 2017 at 10:09 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Catholic_Lady - January 1, 2017 at 7:25 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by chimp3 - January 1, 2017 at 7:26 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Catholic_Lady - January 1, 2017 at 7:30 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 1, 2017 at 7:33 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 7:36 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by chimp3 - January 1, 2017 at 7:47 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Mr Greene - January 1, 2017 at 7:41 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 7:45 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by pocaracas - January 1, 2017 at 7:47 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 7:54 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by pocaracas - January 1, 2017 at 8:04 pm
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RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 8:37 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by rexbeccarox - January 1, 2017 at 8:57 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 1, 2017 at 9:00 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 1, 2017 at 9:11 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Rhondazvous - January 1, 2017 at 9:11 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 2, 2017 at 11:33 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 1, 2017 at 8:14 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Mystical - January 1, 2017 at 11:42 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 1, 2017 at 11:47 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 1, 2017 at 8:01 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Rhondazvous - January 1, 2017 at 8:36 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by chimp3 - January 1, 2017 at 8:38 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 1, 2017 at 8:38 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Cyberman - January 1, 2017 at 9:58 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Cyberman - January 1, 2017 at 11:54 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 2, 2017 at 12:30 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Cyberman - January 2, 2017 at 12:36 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Mystical - January 2, 2017 at 1:25 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Cyberman - January 2, 2017 at 11:54 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Cyberman - January 2, 2017 at 11:59 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 2, 2017 at 12:07 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 2, 2017 at 3:28 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 2, 2017 at 5:21 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by pocaracas - January 2, 2017 at 5:28 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 2, 2017 at 5:47 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by pocaracas - January 2, 2017 at 5:54 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 2, 2017 at 5:57 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by pocaracas - January 2, 2017 at 6:10 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Mystical - January 2, 2017 at 6:53 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 2, 2017 at 6:46 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Cyberman - January 2, 2017 at 12:13 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Mystical - January 2, 2017 at 6:43 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 2, 2017 at 7:03 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by pocaracas - January 2, 2017 at 7:32 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Nay_Sayer - January 2, 2017 at 8:40 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 2, 2017 at 10:54 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Brian37 - January 2, 2017 at 11:20 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Nay_Sayer - January 6, 2017 at 2:53 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Cyberman - January 2, 2017 at 8:52 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by AFTT47 - January 3, 2017 at 1:18 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 3, 2017 at 3:46 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by chimp3 - January 3, 2017 at 8:22 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 3, 2017 at 3:49 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by chimp3 - January 4, 2017 at 6:36 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Jesster - January 4, 2017 at 6:48 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by chimp3 - January 4, 2017 at 6:52 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Jesster - January 4, 2017 at 6:53 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by chimp3 - January 4, 2017 at 7:21 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 1:54 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 4, 2017 at 4:26 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 4, 2017 at 4:30 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 5, 2017 at 12:55 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by brewer - January 4, 2017 at 4:37 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Jesster - January 5, 2017 at 1:30 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Brian37 - January 7, 2017 at 12:37 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Mystical - January 3, 2017 at 8:33 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Dragonspride1995 - January 4, 2017 at 4:33 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 5, 2017 at 4:56 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by robvalue - January 5, 2017 at 6:27 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 9, 2017 at 10:53 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by brewer - January 3, 2017 at 9:11 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by johan - January 3, 2017 at 10:02 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 3, 2017 at 10:47 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by LastPoet - January 5, 2017 at 7:22 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 6, 2017 at 5:03 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by chimp3 - January 6, 2017 at 6:25 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by robvalue - January 6, 2017 at 9:20 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Mr Greene - January 6, 2017 at 9:31 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Mister Agenda - January 6, 2017 at 12:29 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Mr Greene - January 6, 2017 at 6:28 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Pat Mustard - January 6, 2017 at 8:46 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by brewer - January 6, 2017 at 8:52 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Pat Mustard - January 9, 2017 at 7:06 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by brewer - January 9, 2017 at 7:08 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Jesster - January 9, 2017 at 7:56 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by brewer - January 9, 2017 at 9:32 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Mr Greene - January 6, 2017 at 8:48 pm
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Pat Mustard - January 6, 2017 at 8:54 pm
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RE: Request from a Christian. - by Cyberman - January 16, 2017 at 8:16 am
RE: Request from a Christian. - by Astonished - January 18, 2017 at 1:34 am

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