(January 4, 2017 at 1:16 pm)Astonished Wrote: Exactly. What kind and loving god wants you constantly in a state of fear, panic, depression and all other things bad that religion is exclusively responsible for in this sense?"And by the way, there'll be a bunch of people telling you what you need to do and believe to get into my kingdom. Out of respect for your free will, I won't give you the slightest clue which one is right. You will have the eenie meenie minie mo method at your disposal. And you'll be held responsible if you choose the wrong one. If by chance you choose the right one (and there's only one right one) I'll greet you with open arms. Good luck."
Here's how I see it. Life is not a gift, so it should not be argued as such in terms of this point I'm about to make, by the way:
We are not given the option to opt out of this choice. Rather than god being reasonable and saying, "Okay, so you're going to be born with zero knowledge and rely only on your parents and others to teach you how shit works, and I'm intentionally going to make my message completely incomprehensible. Now, there are two choices ahead of you in your life. You roll the dice and live in whatever way you come to be convinced is going to get you into my kingdom of eternal bliss, or you roll the dice and live in a way that gets you thrown into fiery agony forever." No reasonable, compassionate god would forget to add, "But since I'm such a nice guy, I'm going to give you the option not to have to face such an insurmountable choice. I can extinguish you, make you a miscarriage or stillborn depending on at what point in the pregnancy I bother to start communicating with your freshly-created soul, and send you to oblivion where you came from. You won't remember having made the choice when I shove you back into your mom's cooch, but it's your choice right now, with a somewhat-developed understanding of the world and these concepts but absolutely no knowledge of where in time or earth you'll end up being born and growing up or any of the experiences you'll have while alive. So, what's it gonna be? No pressure."
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
--Voltaire
Nietzsche isn't dead. How do I know he lives? He lives in my mind.