(January 12, 2017 at 3:29 pm)Asmodee Wrote: From our perspective both are identically mythical. Many of us have had discussions with those who think they are the "best and the brightest" and, frankly, their arguments are stupid. And what do you expect, exactly? Do you realize how people who hold no belief in a deity are generally treated around the world? What do you expect is going to happen if you marginalize a population, insist that they are immoral and not to be trusted and threaten them with death or worse? They're going to get pissed off and start making fun of you. Boo fucking hoo.
And you're one to talk about acting like an intellectual little snark. You, who has no problem calling others ignorant and uninformed if they don't hold your beliefs. The only difference is that your aggression is more passive most of the time. You are a smug little prick about your beliefs no less.
And your notions that hospitals came to be because of religious convictions is just bullshit. People are people, regardless their beliefs. If religion never existed, hospitals still would. Colleges still would. There are good people in the world. That some of those good people had access to the vast fortune religion accumulates speaks highly of them, not the religion which provided the fortune. Good people can have stupid beliefs. I have known good people who were atheists and bad people who were devout Christians. It doesn't take religion to be a good person.
And as I have stated before, Catholic hospitals are not the great works of charity one would be led to believe. Catholic hospitals usually supplant public and other private hospitals and provide charity care at a rate of roughly half that of public hospitals. They also refuse service to people when it conflicts with Catholic beliefs without the most remote concern for the well-being of the patient, in full contrast to the Hippocratic Oath. If a woman goes to a Catholic hospital in the middle of having a miscarriage which threatens her life she will not even be told that having an abortion will significantly reduce the threat to her health. Her health is less important that the Catholic belief that ending a pregnancy early, even if the fetus has zero chance of survival, is worse than letting the woman die from the miscarriage.
Your beliefs are not due my respect, least of all because "some guy" held them and that guy was a really good guy. I don't see you singing the praises of James Randi, who has devoted his life and fortune to discrediting charlatans. I don't see you singing the praises of Richard Dawkins for his work in discrediting bunk science to keep it out of schools. I don't see you commending the Freedom From Religion Foundation for keeping us free to not hold religious beliefs. And hell, I don't go to Christian forums and tell all the little crybaby Christians there what dicks they are for making fun of my beliefs that there are no gods. YOU are the one coming HERE, bitching and whining that we don't respect your fairy tales. Again, boo fucking hoo.
You're talking to a man who put me on ignore because I called him on his bullshit once too often, and then sent me a snotty little pussy of a PM claiming that I was persecuting him.
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