RE: Tooth Fairy Bullshit
January 14, 2017 at 2:56 pm
(This post was last modified: January 14, 2017 at 3:09 pm by Crossless2.0.)
(January 14, 2017 at 2:28 pm)Lek Wrote:(January 14, 2017 at 2:14 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: But different sects have plagued Christianity from the start. Not all "Christians" were on board with Paul's preachments, for instance, and that reaches back to the very start of the movement. There seems to be a considerable difference between Paul's brand of Christianity and that of James the Just, for example. The early Church was constantly marginalizing this or that group as heretics, even before there was a 'Bible' over which they could squabble. It makes sense that you, a Catholic, would argue that extra-Biblical authority is needed to avoid heresy, but you must admit that Catholicism's claim to authority in the first place is the result of the historical winners in that early contest of ideas/interpretations driving out conflicting views, planting a flag, and declaring victory.
It doesn't strike me as especially inspired -- just the messy workings of history, as usual.
You're trying to use disagreement among christians as reason to disprove christianity.
Actually, no. My post was specifically in response to CL's point that the Bible alone cannot be the only pillar of truth within the faith. Since she is Catholic, I assume she was making a point in favor of the Church's authority to correctly interpret dogma on behalf of its adherents.
Quote:There's disagreement among scientists on most scientific "truths", as well as disagreement on most all things we accept as true.
Disingenuous insertion of "truths" rather than hypotheses noted.
Quote:Catholic Lady and myself disagree on points of doctrine, but we both follow the true Christ.
Way to miss the point. That Christ you both supposedly follow is given to you as the product of those very historical winners I referred to in the post you quoted. You, Lek, being some sort of Bible-believing Protestant have no doubt swallowed Paul's take on Jesus hook, line, and sinker. But what if James's community of believers had become ascendant instead? We'd have a very different Christ, if at all. Your "true Christ" was not given to you in some unfiltered way. It is the result of historical contingency, power grabs, and ultimately a fucking vote over which books made it into your holy tome. That the guys who voted claimed to have been divinely inspired is only to be expected, not believed.
Quote:The truth is that we don't have to agree on all points of doctrine; even if you think that God should have made it that way.
I don't believe in your god, so I have no strong opinion about how it should have done anything. I'm just amused at Christians who look at their god's Rube Goldberg salvation scheme and think it represents the outcome of a loving, all-knowing, and all-powerful being's careful deliberation, rather than the primitive sacrificial scheme, dreamed up by humans, that it is.