Tooth Fairy Bullshit

[Huggy Bear]

*emphasis mine*

You kind of make my point, if none of the above exist, then you are dealing with the supernatural by definition.

Absolutely not.

The laws of nature, and the all the other stuff mentioned, are the attributes of this universe. These things did not exist, at least in the way they exist in our current universe, until this universe existed.

Still no supernatural entity necessary.

I'll quote the definition of supernatural again.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/defini...pernatural

supernatural

1(of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature:

If "the laws of nature" did not exist, then whatever state existed, existed apart from nature, making it supernatural by definition... got it?

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Nice hypothetical.  No.  Wrong.  You're equating not knowing the specific answer with a position of total ignorance.  Saying "I don't know" isn't asserting complete ignorance.  If there's a jar filled with gumballs, and someone asks me how many gumballs are in the jar, I can rightly say, "I don't know," without implying that I don't know the answer isn't 0 or 1.  You're simply wrong.  Not knowing doesn't imply total ignorance and a concomitant agnosticism towards all solutions.

Except you are in total ignorance about the state the universe was in before it began...

In your scenario,  a jar filled with gumballs existing would be factual, but if you couldn't see the jar then you COULDN'T say what the number is or isn't.

Please tell me one fact about how the universe started, as far as I know no one was here to observe what took place.