(January 16, 2017 at 11:13 pm)Faith No More Wrote:(January 16, 2017 at 8:51 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Seeing how time is relative it's totally doable.
You do realize that from our perspective it may take a photon years to reach it's destination, but from the point of view of a photon, it takes no time at all, it's instantaneous.
Aww, you mentioned relativity. That's adorable. Like watching a four-year old try to ride a bike.
Relativity is about how matter flows through time relative to its velocity. It doesn't mean that talking about a point in time when time did not exist suddenly isn't nonsensical.
(January 16, 2017 at 8:51 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Seeing how every living thing has a spirit (including you), I don't see how you figure it is, especially when there are cases that suggest consciousness can exist without a functioning brain.
Ah, yes, this magical "spirit" that no one can find, no one can describe, no one knows where it's at, no one knows what it does, no scientific study has ever found the tiniest scrap of evidence for but religious people really, really insist is there. They point at things we don't understand about the most complex organ in the human body and say, "See! I promise you it's hiding in those ever-shrinking gaps!"
Tell you what, Huggy. You let someone fillet your brain with a butcher knife then come and tell me how you can float around without a brain, and I promise you I will convert on the spot.
I've made the same challenge many, many times. For some reason, the people who are absolutely sure they have this indestructible, immaterial spirit/soul that is "them" and that somehow survives their physical death aren't eager to prove it by undergoing radically invasive brain surgery. Hell, I'm not even talking about killing them -- just altering their brain so they can demonstrate how unaffected their immaterial self is by material change. But no takers.
It's almost like they don't really believe their own bullshit.