RE: Tooth Fairy Bullshit
January 17, 2017 at 2:20 pm
(This post was last modified: January 17, 2017 at 2:44 pm by downbeatplumb.)
(January 16, 2017 at 4:03 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(January 16, 2017 at 3:11 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: The difference is that saying "the universe created itself" is not what he said. His implication is that the universe started by some as yet unknown natural process whereas theists not only believe that it was not a natural process but some magical figure that somehow poofed the universe into existence by some undetermined way and for some reason hates the gays.
You can't refer to it as a 'natural' process if the process is unknown, you assume the process to be natural, yet there are absolutely no examples of nature producing anything from nothing.
This would be in violation of the law of Conservation of Energy/ mass
What you describe falls in the realm of supernatural... in other words, magic.
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/supernatural
Quote:supernaturalFace it, your belief requires just as much faith as mine.
1. of, relating to, or being above or beyond what is natural; unexplainable by natural law or phenomena; abnormal.
In order for a supernatural causation to be considered, supernatural has to be proved to be a thing.
We know that things occur by natural processes, so this would be the most, and at this stage, only logical possible solution.
My beliefs are based on what can be proven, your faith is despite what can be proven.
Get the difference.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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