RE: Tooth Fairy Bullshit
January 18, 2017 at 10:32 am
(This post was last modified: January 18, 2017 at 11:06 am by Mister Agenda.)
Huggy74 Wrote:Your logic kinda fails since he's the CREATOR of this reality, and why would the creator be affected by the creation or not be able to interact with it?
Any interaction would be detectable. If there were a God and it was actually 'doing stuff', it would be like Dark Energy, even though it's not yet detectable we can know that it exists and infer certain things about it because of what it does. Presuming your version of God acts through miracles, one proven miracle that was actually miraculous would be something you could point to as evidence for your God. It might not be conclusive, but at least it would be something.[/quote]
Huggy74 Wrote:*emphasis mine*
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Belief and faith are synonymous, there is no difference...
belief
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/belief
1. something believed; an opinion or conviction: a belief that the earth is flat.
2. confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof: a statement unworthy of belief.
3. confidence; faith; trust: a child's belief in his parents.
4. a religious tenet or tenets; religious creed or faith:
Being synonymous doesn't mean there is no difference. Context is important. Boat is a synonym for canoe, but not all boats are canoes. All faith is belief, but not all belief is faith. Faith is a particular kind of belief. I believe the sun will come up in the morning. That is not equivalent to I have faith that God will regrow my lost arm. If there was truly no difference between the word 'belief' and the word 'faith', their definitions would be identical.
faith
[feyth]
noun
1. confidence or trust in a person or thing:
faith in another's ability.
2. belief that is not based on proof:
He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.
3. belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion:
the firm faith of the Pilgrims.
4. belief in anything, as a code of ethics, standards of merit, etc.:
to be of the same faith with someone concerning honesty.
5. a system of religious belief:
the Christian faith; the Jewish faith.
6. the obligation of loyalty or fidelity to a person, promise, engagement, etc.:
Failure to appear would be breaking faith.
7. the observance of this obligation; fidelity to one's promise, oath, allegiance, etc.:
He was the only one who proved his faith during our recent troubles.
8. Christian Theology. the trust in God and in His promises as made through Christ and the Scriptures by which humans are justified or saved.
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Huggy74 Wrote:Mathilda Wrote:If you create or interact with something then it is part of the same reality that you inhabit.
The only thing you can possibly use to argue against this is the fallacious argument of special pleading in the case of your god.
Do the creators of World of Warcraft exist in WoW's reality?
Both the creators of WOW and WOW exist in this reality. They're both part of a reality, and can't not be part of a reality.
If WOW characters were scientifically minded conscious sapient beings, much could be inferred about the creators of WOW based on their interference with the setting. Primary of which would be that they can violate the 'laws' of the setting at will. With an all-powerful creator interfering with your reality, any 'laws' you may discover only last as long as the creator sees fit. If our reality is the equivalent of a WOW game to our creator/designer; it seems to be staying out of the game, kind of ruining your analogy.
And I note: if WOW's characters were conscious sapient beings, their designers would incur moral obligation to them, not the other way around. It would be monstrous of them to treat the characters the way they do if they were 'real' in the sense of being moral agents like us. That obligation wouldn't go both ways: the WOW characters wouldn't have asked to be created or to have the natures their designers gave them.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.