(January 18, 2017 at 5:45 am)Pulse Wrote:(January 18, 2017 at 5:11 am)Whateverist Wrote: Yeah, being staunch about stuff probably isn't as good as knowing what you know and recognizing when you don't. Staunch atheists are as brittle as staunch theists, and either can convert to the other for a myriad of reasons owing to their propensity for remaining resolutely certain. But not all atheists are staunch. Plenty are defacto atheists for whom the question of belief in a god is highly unlikely but not a point of faith. Show me a good reason to believe in a god and I'll show you a new theist. But fair warning: others have tried and none of the apologetics crap has moved me one iota. Personal testimony - even less so.
NDE's are either living brain phenomenon under extreme conditions or else literally tales from the other side. Someone who has actually had the experience in question isn't necessarily any better informed than we are as which of those alternatives is correct. They may truly believe they've been to the other side and be entirely mistaken. They may be convinced but that doesn't mean we should be. I can think of no way to convince you that NDE's have a mundane explanation, so I won't try. But that is my working assumption and it is every bit as good as your own. Agree to disagree?
Well when you have an EXTREMELY rare event of an actual Neurosurgeon having an NDE and changing his entire life because of his new belief system, and that still hasn't convinced you there's something to all this, then yeah, we agree to disagree.
Why on earth should ONE individual's experience be enough to convince you of anything as extraordinary as the existence of gods and an "afterlife"? That's just plain old gullibility.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.
