(January 18, 2017 at 8:48 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Nice cherry pick, one nut job.
Ok, tit for tat, Jim Jones. Not a war, just mad with christian religious power. Think he had a higher body count.
Or Marshall Applewhite. The next messiah, jesus 2.0.
Let's face it, more twisted deaths can be attributed to religious followings (not acting against, using) than atheist. Where did "kill them all and let god sort it out" come from?
And Dawkins, where/when did he say that? Are you taking things out of context (again) from River out of Eden, "The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind, pitiless indifference." He was not speaking about humans or human society. But I'm willing to let you take another swing at it and tell me where your Dawkins reference comes from.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_Dawkins
BTW, Dawkins, not an apostle to me. But even if he was considered one, I as an atheist, am allowed to disagree. Something tells me that you are not allowed to disagree with the "true" apostles for fear of ever lasting punishment.
You make it sound like humans and human society are not part of the Universe.
And from my research on Jones, I couldn't find any religious affiliation for him accept that he saw himself as a communist, which has been the antithesis of any religion; "Jones purported to establish Jonestown as a benevolent model communist community stating, "I believe we're the purest communists there are." In that regard, like the restrictive emigration policies of the Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea and other communist states, Jones did not permit members to leave Jonestown.