RE: Serious Problems with Atheism
January 19, 2017 at 4:14 am
(This post was last modified: January 19, 2017 at 4:26 am by Pat Mustard.)
(January 18, 2017 at 8:57 pm)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:Where did "kill them all and let god sort it out" come from?
A. Arnaud Amalric, Abbot of Citeaux, at the massacre of Beziers.... you know, one of those non-crimes that catholic fucktards think was inspired by atheists!
I was going to use "Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius." myself, but decided to keep it in reserve. Amauric probably didn't say those exact words, but they do reveal his sentiments during the sack of Beziers that it was better to let a hundred innocents die horribly than have one "guilty" person go free.
And it also cuts right to the heart of christian behaviour to those who think differently. For a religion with pretensions of universalism, it sure is quick to whip out the thumbscrews.
(January 18, 2017 at 9:01 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:(January 18, 2017 at 8:19 pm)Pulse Wrote: Anyway, back to my original post, why do so many of you who are atheists, disbelieve R. Dawkins who said good and evil
don't even exist, are you dissenting from this "great" atheist thinker??? Why is killing wrong for an atheist in view of the
teaching of the "greatest apostle of Atheism" in our time??? If you just say "Good and evil are constructs in our minds we choose to follow, even though they don't objectively
exist"; isn't that living a delusion???
I don't care what Dawkins says about atheism. I agree with some things he says, and not with others.
There is no such thing as an 'atheist apostle'. And certainly, Dawkins would not be it, if there were such a thing.
People act in 'good' and/or 'evil' ways, but evil or good do not exist as a force. If people did not exist, evil and good would not exist.
We all live in the same physical universe, subject to the same physical laws, with the same (more or less) physical bodies.
My well being is extremely important to me. I prefer: life over death, health over disease, freedom over slavery, comfort over torture, etc.
From that, I can easily extrapolate that the vast majority of my fellow humans want the same for their own lives.
Since I don't want to live in a society were my well being is threatened or compromised, I will not threaten of compromise other's well being. And I want laws in place that will assist in this outcome.
There, the basis for a moral system, no gods required.
The worst of it is, is that Pulse isn't even giving us what Dawkins says. He's quote mining Dawkins in a lying attempt to make it look like Dawkins is saying something other than he actually is. Pulse is making a strawman because he cannot refute the actual arguments yet is too intellectually bankrupt and immoral to admit that.
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