(January 19, 2017 at 4:35 am)Pulse Wrote: Tazzycorn, you seem to be STRETCHING the truth somewhat (Atheism has no rock solid basis for morality so i am not surprised) ok Ill quote more from Dawkins and see if you can by some miracle extract from this fuller quotation that I was wrong and Dawkins in fact believes there is Good and Evil in the Universe
"In a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference.” Richard Dawkins, River Out of Eden: A Darwinian View of Life
Why would we need to restrict ourselves to one quotation? Surprisingly, people's views of things can often extend beyond the confines of a single, arbitrarily picked snippet of text.
What Dawkins is saying there is that the universe doesn't operate with any inherent moral principles, that there's no mechanisms within reality doing any moral heavy lifting. While this might be true, it's also true that Dawkins has spoken at length about the development of morality and social progress through reason, and that notions of good and evil are superior for coming about as the result of this, instead of dictates from divinity. Dawkins' view is that morality comes about through people, people are a part of the universe, and therefore, there is good and evil in the universe, even if this is something sustained by minds, and not objectively real in any physical sense.
You might do yourself a favor and look into the is/ought fallacy, too. It could clear up some misconceptions you have, though I don't hold any particularly high hopes that you will. It'd be nice to be proven wrong one of these days.
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
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