(January 19, 2017 at 4:49 pm)Pulse Wrote: That's at the core of the debate isn't it, why is "prosocial" better than "antisocial"? Why is human survival better than
extinction?
It's better for humans. Perhaps it has no significance on a cosmic scale, but do you really need everything you do to have consistent, reality-wide significance to be worth doing? Subjective is not the same thing as worthless.
Quote:Why are the random electron collisions in his brain forming his "logic"
"bad" and the random electron collisions in your brain forming your "logic" "better"?
Well, for one, there are objective facts that can be known about biological entities with regards to their function. One of those is that organisms tend toward survival simply as a mechanism of how that works: the things that stay alive will generally be the ones with equipment enabling them to survive, and we are a part of that set. Our function is to be alive, and thus in that sense, te logic of a serial killer is maladaptive to that purpose.
For another, even if we assume that there is no especial difference, doesn't it also follow that if you're going to give the serial killer a say, o be consistent we ought to have one too? And everyone else? I think you'll find the majority are willing to engage with the social contract. Again, subjective isn't the same thing as worthless.
Quote:So my point is we innately know that there is Good and Evil in this Universe because we have a Conscience which is simply
irreducible to random electron collisions in our skulls, and it requires the stubbornness and closed-mindedness of a Dawkins to
deny the obvious.
You're assuming that morality can only be detectable by humans if it's an objective function of the universe, rather than an emergent property of brains. I don't know why you'd do that, and frankly, there's nothing here to rebut until you provide even an iota of support for it.
I think the big problem, here, is that you're hanging your entire argument on your discomfort with the idea that your feelings might not have some grand cosmic significance. I know you don't like thinking about it, but making it seem scary is not an argument, it doesn't mean that it's true erely because it stirs existential feelings in you. Got anything other than your subjective opinion?
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
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