Serious Problems with Atheism

[Mister Agenda]

Tazzycorn, you seem to be STRETCHING the truth somewhat (Atheism has no rock solid basis for morality so i am not surprised) ok Ill quote more from Dawkins and see if you can by some miracle extract from this fuller quotation that I was wrong and Dawkins in fact believes there is Good and Evil in the Universe

Theism has no basis for morality either, Christians, Muslims, and human-sacrificing Aztecs: all theists. You can't just use Christianity and theism interchangeably. And when you compare atheism to Christianity instead of atheism to theism, you're comparing rutabagas to oranges. Either compare theism to atheism (which takes about 30 seconds) or compare a theistic religion to an atheistic philosophy. And if you pick a philosophy or ideology which hardly anyone here holds to (like totalitarian communism), that would be like expecting you to answer as a Christian to our criticisms of Islam. Try Christianity vs. humanism if you're actually serious.

"In a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won't find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference.”   Richard Dawkins, River Out of Eden: A Darwinian View of Life

The universe as a whole is indifferent, but we aren't, or hadn't you noticed that? It's something any human being should be able to look around and observe. The only purpose denying that we acknowledge that things matter to humans is to dehumanize us. Fortunately I think you may have missed the boat on organizing a pogrom against us (despite having some professed Christian politicians who might fall in line for it); though Hitler was quite proud of having stamped out the 'atheist movement' in Nazi Germany with a few surgically precise executions, that might have been a better time to play 'atheists are necessarily immoral' card.

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Ah ok we are resorting to abuse, yes that's typical of Atheists, seen it all before, nothing wrong with abuse in a Universe with No good or evil right?

I'd retort that you're displaying a typical Christian love of victimhood, but that would be overgeneralizing. It is, however, fairly popular among Christian fundamentalists in the USA who seem to equate not always getting their way with being oppressed.

I will say you're setting the bar for whining about abuse so low that I expect you'll whine every time someone takes offense and responds in kind when you insinuate that they're lying.

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Which of the Ten Commandments worked its way into the laws of the United States? Thou shalt not kill? In 1918 the so-called anti-lynching bill (H: R. 11279) was introduced to Congress and struck down by the same. Similar laws have been periodically introduced, but to this day there is no federal law against murder.

The first several commandments are just about how to worship your imaginary god.  Nothing resembling profound revelation proceeds that.  

Long before the Ten Commandments humans followed the Instructions of Ptah, the Precepts of Ma’at, the Emerald Tablets of Thoth, Iwa Pele. The writers of  the Ten Commandments had a wealth of human moral instruction to draw on.

American law is largely based on the English Common Law, which began before Christianity was introduced to the British Isles, and funnily enough, already had punishments for killing people before the Christians got there. But it doesn't count, 'cause the 10 Commandments were written on their hearts, even though for some reason God supposedly had to write them in stone for the Hebrews.

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I was going to say we don't reject their god. We simply don't believe he exists. But that's a moot point. Even if the draconian psychopath did exist we would still reject him.

If it's real, it's probably not nearly as bad as so many of its followers make it out to be.