RE: Tooth Fairy Bullshit
January 21, 2017 at 6:22 am
(This post was last modified: January 21, 2017 at 6:24 am by Aroura.)
(January 20, 2017 at 10:30 pm)Jesster Wrote:I actually have zero interest in converting, or deconverting people. I spend almost no time on this forums debating theists, and even less IRL, lol. I have no idea why I phrased it that way.(January 20, 2017 at 10:13 pm)Aroura Wrote: I completely agree, as I said in my post, that since we are on an atheist forum, this is the place to say it. I also don't think anyone saying it is a douchbag at all. I just could also see why they felt insulted.
I do think making people uncomfortable in their belief is one way to change them, and this insult seems pretty minor.
Personally though, after hearing how insulting it seems from their side, I would stick by the validity of the argument itself, but realize it wasn't going to change a mind, most likely, if that was my goal.
This is what happens when I do my Dialectical behavior therapy and try and see both sides of an argument, lol.
Well yes, the first post here started with NS converting his personal butthurt into that specific insult. While he was intending to insult others though, that's not how I'm seeing my deity comparison. I don't insult people over their religious beliefs and I don't see mocking the belief itself as an insult directed at the believer. If I wanted to insult them, I'd call them names as a result of their beliefs. So far I haven't done that, and yet they are sticking those words in my mouth anyway. You and the theists are welcome to view this as insulting all day long, but I don't see it. Again, not sorry.
I think one difference between you and I, Aroura, is that you seem to care about changing their beliefs (as I understood from your previous post at least). I don't care about converting anyone. I do care about informing others about what I do or do not believe, though. I'm going to keep doing that.
Let me rephrase to, if you want someone to listen to your ideas and try and understand your point of view (which seems to be what you want), instead of CHANGE to their point of view. Same thing, same point about how to address them. This applies completely to the OP calling people douchbags or whatever, as well, and is not directed at any single member in this thread,more of a general observation on my part. If he wants us to listen and not just get offended and riles up, then don't call your audience douchebags.
But whatever, I can see you aren't interested in what I was saying anyway, and that's fine too.
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