RE: If God created all the good things around us then it means he created all EVIL too
January 23, 2017 at 4:21 am
(This post was last modified: January 23, 2017 at 4:47 am by Godscreated.)
(January 22, 2017 at 10:47 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(January 22, 2017 at 1:16 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I find it interesting that the same people who say atheism is simply a lack of belief in God balk at the idea that evil is the lack of a good that ought to be.
Well, for one, they are radically different things. For two, what does a "lack of a good that ought to be" really mean. When a man rapes a woman, what good that should be is that a lack of? The idea that evil is just a lack of good is nothing but an empty metaphor.
Good in itself is just a word without defining properties. In your example the lack of good without it's properties would make your statement true. In the case of rape you posed, the lack of "respect" would be the good that's missing. Good and evil are actions of some kind and are opposed to each other, the action of good is the opposite of evil.
GC
(January 22, 2017 at 6:50 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:Quote:Evil is not created; it's allowed. Why? God would rather have free will and evil, than no free will and no evil.
This is a false equivalency. God could have created a world with free will and no evil. Why didn't he?
Boru
He did, and God said on the seventh day, "all is good." Mankind brought evil into God's creation, the disobedience of Adam and Eve are responsible for the evil that know exist with man.
GC
(January 22, 2017 at 10:52 am)Stimbo Wrote:(January 22, 2017 at 8:04 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Put in the context of morality, neutrality is evil.
Then by doing nothing while a rape is being committed, or a child is being murdered as a witch, all gods are evil.
In the first place there are no other gods in the sense you are stating. Next I think you have tried to apply Huggy 74's statement to God because you can't see Him working and that my friend is your fault. God offers the ability to see Him at work and you have refused to accept the grace that leads to that ability, you're forfeiting everything.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.