Quote:I noticed that most people in the forum when talk about God both in the positive and negative take from what religions say.
It never came in their mind that what religions say may be totally different from what God (if exist at all)
may think or say.
I brought the attention to this failing time and time again but people keep on falling in the same trap so I
open a poll to see what they think regard all this.
Haven't read through the other responses, yet, but here's my response:
This concept has been my argument to my own religious family, for several years now:
I begin by pointing out that the Abrahamic religions equate "GOD" with "TRUTH"
but that in teaching their acolytes to not question their "Truth" that they might be in fact teaching those people to shut out any ACTUAL truth that God, should He actually exist, might have put out there for people to find;
For example, Homosexuality might very well be part of God's Design for the Universe,
...and Science might be the vehicle which God left us to discover His Design...
but that possibility doesn't fit in with their "TRUTH".
So therefore it is heresy.
Therefore,
should it someday be discovered that God's existence can be conclusively proven,
but, should it also be discovered that what His Nature actually IS,
is NOT, in fact, what the Religions of the world say He is SUPPOSED to be..
...then God Himself would be a Heretic.
In other words,
Religion does NOT serve God.
Religion serves Religion.
And, as I see it,
An individual cannot (with any degree of integrity)
serve BOTH God, and a Religion, at the same time.
Note: All of this is not to say that I personally believe in God;
but I recognize you cannot convince believers to stop believing, nine times out of ten,
but if they are really interested in pursuing the service of God with any degree of integrity,
then this argument might, eventually, make them realize this:
THEY CAN KEEP THEIR FAITH IN GOD, WITHOUT NEEDING TO ASCRIBE A RELIGIOUS DOGMA TO THAT FAITH;
AND INDEED, MUST JETTISON ALL RELIGIOUS DOGMA, IF THEY ARE TO SERVE GOD PROPERLY, AT ALL.
I really have no problem with people who feel that there is a God out there.
What I take issue with is all the dogma people feel the need to clap onto God; all the parameters
about what He is, what He isn't, what He wants, what He doesn't want, etc.
The whole concept of "sin" is man-made, IMO,
and the only reasons religion exists is because:
A. Human beings CANNOT STAND not having answers, to certain questions,
that they THINK that they need to have IMMEDIATELY; and cannot simply accept NOT knowing;
B. Because human beings CANNOT ACCEPT that life simply isn't fair...they can't accept that the painting of their life depicts an ending in tragedy and injustice...so they simply make the canvas bigger still, so as to dwarf the tragedy their lives depict, and instead insert it into a larger picture....a bigger context, one in which justice is served. They basically cannot accept the book ending on a sad note, so they write another chapter called "Eternity" which follows death, with two scenes: Heaven and Hell, to rectify what wasn't resolved to their satisfaction at the end of the "Life" chapter.
