RE: If God created all the good things around us then it means he created all EVIL too
January 30, 2017 at 2:45 pm
(January 28, 2017 at 12:42 am)Godschild Wrote:Back at you. Just because you've seen no evidence that he has lied to you does not mean he hasn't lied to you. You could be keeping your eyes closed or just plain denying the lies you've seen.(January 27, 2017 at 11:22 am)Asmodee Wrote: Perfect! That means I can know with certainty that he doesn't exist because I see no evidence that he does. I assume you have no problem with me making the definitive claim now that God definitely does not exist and simply disagreeing with that assessment rather than arguing the point.
Just because you say you haven't seen evidence of Him doesn't mean it's not there. You could be keeping your eyes closed or just plain denying what you've seen.
Either we both get to make claims based on what we haven't seen or neither of us do. You don't get to launch the bar into space for me and bury it deep in the Earth for yourself.
(January 28, 2017 at 12:42 am)Godschild Wrote:You have no possible way of knowing what an omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent thing has need or desire of. You're just making that up. How do you know this? Can you prove this? Can you even imagine what it's like to have these three qualities, much less know what a being with such qualities may or may not desire or need?Asmodee Wrote:And aren't Christians fond of saying things like, "God works in mysterious ways" and "We cannot know the mind of God" and "Trying to understand how God thinks is like an ant trying to understand how we think"? I don't what reason an omniscient being would have to lie. I don't know that an omniscient being necessarily would or would not lie. And if she thinks so much differently than we do, neither do you.
Yes, many Christians use these words, they are trying to tell people that God is so far beyond us that we could never fully understand HIm. Again I say an omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent being has no need to lie, it's simple reasoning. Your little digs are childish and I expect you will keep them up.
GC
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