RE: Trump: "Any negative polls are fake news"
February 6, 2017 at 6:14 pm
(This post was last modified: February 6, 2017 at 6:35 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(February 6, 2017 at 11:01 am)Violet Wrote:(February 6, 2017 at 10:56 am)Faith No More Wrote: Donald Trump is actually two midgets in a human skin suit that sat out in the sun too long. Bare assertions are fun!
And can it really be considered gaslighting when your victims are just lemmings ready to be led off of a cliff?
Seriously guys, though. What's up with this gaslighting thing? Did a Gaslight 2: The Redefinening happen to hit some dank theatre near me?
It's starting to sound like any time anybody disagrees with my viewpoint they gaslightening me. Have you gone mad, my husband?
Gaslighting is the attempt to make someone doubt their own perceptions of reality.
I'd say Trump qualifies. Repeating lies in an attempt to make them The Truth.
(February 6, 2017 at 3:36 pm)Violet Wrote:(February 6, 2017 at 2:06 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: I defy you to find one actual news site saying anything of the sort. What you had was people being reasonably afraid that the man sent his Press Secretary out to the podium to say "That was the largest crowd to ever witness a presidential inauguration. Period."
There is a good amount of editorializing to be done about that kind of statement and the precedent it sets on Day One.
I've spent a long while thinking while I workin dinner about that first sentence. I had thought that you meant that I couldn't find an actual news site comparing trump to hitler or the like XD I was like, 'defy you to find one? Jesus christ the avalanche is unending!'. Little giggle, don't mind me.
So.... what this actually comes down to is a difference in perception. That his press secretary said that on day one terrifies you... and it doesn't affect me at all.
Quote:I agree. Perception is, in many people's world, their reality. But it doesn't change the polling data. The president's response to bad polling data should be to question why the polling data is bad and maybe alter his decision making in order to make the people in the country he leads approve of what he is doing, not to a priori dismiss any data that goes against the narrative that he wants to push.
For someone so wrapped up in perception, you are remarkably quick to dismiss the perception of the majority of the people in America. Because it doesn't fit your reality, I would guess.
But people do approve of what he's doing, by some polls. And people also do not approve of what he's doing, by other polls. What I will say for certain when we talk about polls is that people approve of him a heck of a lot more than people approve of Merkel or Hollande, and I will say for certain that Trump has been in office for 2 weeks and is making good on his campaign promises.
His response to his 3 million popular vote defeat was to launch a much needed investigation into voter fraud that his political opponents *had been seeking* up until he did it.
You can't say his optics aren't good, surely. Man's a master of optics
Trump, a master of optics?
WTF are you smoking?
(February 6, 2017 at 5:10 pm)Violet Wrote:(February 6, 2017 at 5:04 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I'm just trying to figure out whether liberals are supposed to be kale eating hippies or bomb planting anarchists...I don't want to be behind the times on my drumpfuck memes.
We conceded the pacific, and the future of trade, when we bowed out of TPP, as imperfect as it may have been. We voluntarily made ourselves second stringers when only we could have done so, to ourselves. Just as one factual rebuttal to your ideological examples.
I KNOW! I've been totally BTFO by it XD This election has been CRAZY @___@
I don't feel the same way... China needs us, and we may be on the cusp of a real relationship with Russia. If we need to make specific trade deals in the pacific with their slave labour: we can well make individual trade deals with respective countries.
We're the richest country on Earth with a military presence that could actually go to war with the world and win... There's some serious leverage to be had if we're willing to use it. Wish we could get Mehmet in on this He'd tell us a thing or two about national pride.
Lol, we could "win against the world"?
Can I tell you a little story about a place called Iraq?
Seriously, get right with some facts. You'll think more clearly and probably talk in a smarter manner.