(February 6, 2017 at 4:38 pm)Orochi Wrote: 1. Having hundreds of business. does not make you a success it means you have hundreds of business. Most of which took advantage of the very free trade system he's now all of a sudden against .

Don't know what you're saying about trade, but TPP and NAFTA are crazy like the EU is crazy. I'm glad we're not a part of the TPP, and I'm glad we're getting a new and better deal on NAFTA (or none at all).

And... actually it kind of does mean you're pretty successful. Hundreds of businesses in the black and earning is impressive. I don't know how anyone can see 'hundreds of businesses in the black' and 'not a success' in the same eye. 98% of the world's human population must not be much of a success I guess

Quote:2.He only won the primaries  because people where mad at the republican party and this was there cynical rebellion against there own party

Or, he had a genuinely successful system of doing things, and he managed to push that into a win. Who would you rather... Cruz? Rand Paul? JEB!? Sleepy Doctor?

The best man won out of that batch.. but it wasn't a very good batch.

Quote:3. He only became president by an archaic and stupid voting system which at one time he himself bashed

You mean the voting system that gives small states any kind of voice whatsoever? You do realize that we are a nation of largely self-governed states?

Curiosity, how did you respond every time Clinton changed her view on something she's long believed? Just, to know where your breaks here are... I myself strongly dislike sudden and unexplained shifts in policy and belief, but I can live with that well enough in this case, because of the backlash the left had when he switched sides of belief multiple times to 'their side'. "WTF I love the TPP now!"

Quote:4. Having a lot of people at his swearing in only means people tuned in not that they agree with him .And it only means his brain dead followers tuned in not that he's good for the job

I watched it on Telly~ ^_^

Well, he DID get voted to be the president, that puts him on level with Obama and a whole lotta crackers. Of course we don't have to love everything and anything our president does. He isn't a king... we have freedom of expression in this country.

Granted, I do think that calling your evident political opponents brain-dead wins you few friends.

Quote:5. Oh and none of this means he will be a good president

Sure. But I'm pretty dang optimistic based on the first 2 weeks

I'm just trying to figure out whether liberals are supposed to be kale eating hippies or bomb planting anarchists...I don't want to be behind the times on my drumpfuck memes.

We conceded the pacific, and the future of trade, when we bowed out of TPP, as imperfect as it may have been. We voluntarily made ourselves second stringers when only we could have done so, to ourselves. Just as one factual rebuttal to your ideological examples. NAFTA...the EU...crazy...really, so long as crazy means something other than, well, crazy...I guess?

(February 6, 2017 at 4:17 pm)Orochi Wrote: I'm still waiting for an actual achievement

Sonny, I been doing dishes, I been chattin with my mother-in-law-2-B (she's following Trump on Twitter she tells me cuz he's hilarious XD), and I been cleanin in general. Clothes ain't gonna fold themselves...

Find your chill

(February 6, 2017 at 5:04 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I'm just trying to figure out whether liberals are supposed to be kale eating hippies or bomb planting anarchists...I don't want to be behind the times on my drumpfuck memes.

We conceded the pacific, and the future of trade, when we bowed out of TPP, as imperfect as it may have been.  We voluntarily made ourselves second stringers when only we could have done so, to ourselves.  Just as one factual rebuttal to your ideological examples. NAFTA...the EU...crazy...really, so long as crazy means something other than, well, crazy...I guess?

(February 6, 2017 at 5:06 pm)Violet Wrote:

(February 6, 2017 at 4:17 pm)Orochi Wrote: I'm still waiting for an actual achievement

Sonny, I been doing dishes, I been chattin with my mother-in-law-2-B (she's following Trump on Twitter she tells me cuz he's hilarious XD), and I been cleanin in general. Clothes ain't gonna fold themselves...

Find your chill

So no answer then

(February 6, 2017 at 5:04 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I'm just trying to figure out whether liberals are supposed to be kale eating hippies or bomb planting anarchists...I don't want to be behind the times on my drumpfuck memes.

We conceded the pacific, and the future of trade, when we bowed out of TPP, as imperfect as it may have been.  We voluntarily made ourselves second stringers when only we could have done so, to ourselves.  Just as one factual rebuttal to your ideological examples.

I KNOW! I've been totally BTFO by it XD This election has been CRAZY @___@ 

I don't feel the same way... China needs us, and we may be on the cusp of a real relationship with Russia. If we need to make specific trade deals in the pacific with their slave labour: we can well make individual trade deals with respective countries. 

We're the richest country on Earth with a military presence that could actually go to war with the world and win... There's some serious leverage to be had if we're willing to use it. Wish we could get Mehmet in on this He'd tell us a thing or two about national pride.

(February 6, 2017 at 5:07 pm)Aegon Wrote:

(February 6, 2017 at 5:04 pm)Khemikal Wrote: I'm just trying to figure out whether liberals are supposed to be kale eating hippies or bomb planting anarchists...I don't want to be behind the times on my drumpfuck memes.

We conceded the pacific, and the future of trade, when we bowed out of TPP, as imperfect as it may have been.  We voluntarily made ourselves second stringers when only we could have done so, to ourselves.  Just as one factual rebuttal to your ideological examples. NAFTA...the EU...crazy...really, so long as crazy means something other than, well, crazy...I guess?

Be branded a Hippie or be Branded a Thug

(February 6, 2017 at 5:10 pm)Violet Wrote: I KNOW! I've been totally BTFO by it XD This election has been CRAZY @___@ 

....that;s one word for it.....

Quote:I don't feel the same way... China needs us,

OFC they do, they always have.....at least since we joined ourselves at the hip a few decades back? We're trying our level best to change that, though, to make them independent of our own fortunes...like the morons we've suddenly become.....

Quote:and we may be on the cusp of a real relationship with Russia.

of all of the times to long for a better relationship with russia.......

Quote:If we need to make specific trade deals in the pacific with their slave labour: we can well make individual trade deals with respective countries. 

I;m sorry, did that have something top do with the TPP or.....?

Quote:We're the richest country on Earth with a military presence that could actually go to war with the world and win... There's some serious leverage to be had if we're willing to use it.

Nobody wins in a global war.....

Quote:Wish we could get Mehmet in on this He'd tell us a thing or two about national pride.

More than a thing or two, but none of it any less than base ignorance.

(February 6, 2017 at 5:07 pm)Aegon Wrote: <snip>

Go far enough to an extreme, and you seem to go full circle. Politics have been a wonderfully crazy subject ever since their 'invention'. You can see this really well with intersectional feminism.