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Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity
(March 3, 2017 at 2:04 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: The objective evidence includes the fact there is something rather than nothing, that things can persist in their being despite change, the consistency of cause and effect relationships, etc.

None of these things are evidence for the existence, necessity, possibility, or even likelihood of a god.

(March 3, 2017 at 2:04 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: To account for this evidence there are logical demonstrations justifying the belief in God as a likely explanation

No, there aren't.

There are quite a lot of things that claim to demonstrate this, but none of them actually succeed.

As for the lack of a logical proof for the existence of a specific rock, that is a simple category error. Logic is the process of constructing valid arguments - that is, building conclusions that are true if the premises are true. Determining whether or not the argument is sound - that is, determining whether the premises are actually true, and thus whether or not the conclusion is actually true - is where the gathering of evidence comes in. And proving it to others is more a matter of making said evidence widely available than it is about logic as a system.
"Owl," said Rabbit shortly, "you and I have brains. The others have fluff. If there is any thinking to be done in this Forest - and when I say thinking I mean thinking - you and I must do it."
  - A. A. Milne, The House at Pooh Corner
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Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Redoubtable - January 29, 2017 at 5:10 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Chad32 - January 29, 2017 at 5:49 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Godschild - January 29, 2017 at 6:35 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Redoubtable - January 29, 2017 at 8:21 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Godschild - January 30, 2017 at 2:26 am
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Catholic_Lady - January 30, 2017 at 11:08 am
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Godschild - January 30, 2017 at 4:09 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Mr Greene - January 30, 2017 at 11:53 am
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by robvalue - January 30, 2017 at 1:37 am
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Atheist Rambo - February 26, 2017 at 5:33 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Drich - January 30, 2017 at 10:17 am
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Redoubtable - January 30, 2017 at 4:06 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Drich - January 31, 2017 at 4:38 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Harry Nevis - February 16, 2017 at 10:28 am
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Whateverist - January 31, 2017 at 11:47 am
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RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Firewalker - February 7, 2017 at 5:19 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Edwardo Piet - January 30, 2017 at 10:52 am
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by SteveII - January 30, 2017 at 2:17 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by drfuzzy - January 30, 2017 at 2:43 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by SteveII - January 30, 2017 at 4:06 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Redoubtable - January 30, 2017 at 4:28 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by SteveII - January 30, 2017 at 5:24 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Redoubtable - January 30, 2017 at 4:52 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Mister Agenda - January 30, 2017 at 5:29 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Mr Greene - January 30, 2017 at 8:47 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Lek - February 4, 2017 at 11:44 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Redoubtable - January 30, 2017 at 8:53 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by SteveII - January 31, 2017 at 10:19 am
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Redoubtable - January 31, 2017 at 12:26 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by SteveII - January 31, 2017 at 12:54 pm
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RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Faith No More - February 1, 2017 at 11:38 am
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Faith No More - January 31, 2017 at 5:17 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Neo-Scholastic - January 31, 2017 at 11:48 am
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by SteveII - January 31, 2017 at 1:26 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Redoubtable - January 31, 2017 at 7:03 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by ronedee - February 1, 2017 at 4:59 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Redoubtable - February 1, 2017 at 5:43 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by ronedee - February 2, 2017 at 3:04 am
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Redoubtable - February 2, 2017 at 8:47 am
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by ronedee - February 2, 2017 at 10:54 am
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Redoubtable - February 2, 2017 at 5:03 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by ronedee - February 2, 2017 at 6:03 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by robvalue - February 2, 2017 at 3:49 am
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Lek - February 6, 2017 at 1:17 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Lek - February 6, 2017 at 1:22 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Mr Greene - February 6, 2017 at 3:05 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Minimalist - February 16, 2017 at 12:43 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Lek - February 18, 2017 at 3:15 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Minimalist - February 20, 2017 at 11:58 am
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Neo-Scholastic - February 19, 2017 at 10:14 am
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Cyberman - February 25, 2017 at 3:38 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Lek - February 26, 2017 at 1:29 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Mister Agenda - February 28, 2017 at 12:26 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Neo-Scholastic - February 28, 2017 at 1:09 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Angrboda - March 1, 2017 at 9:20 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Angrboda - March 2, 2017 at 6:43 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Angrboda - March 2, 2017 at 7:49 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Angrboda - March 2, 2017 at 11:10 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Odoital77 - February 19, 2017 at 11:58 pm
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RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Harry Nevis - February 20, 2017 at 11:15 am
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Redoubtable - February 25, 2017 at 2:48 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by ukatheist - February 20, 2017 at 2:16 pm
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RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Cyberman - February 26, 2017 at 4:55 pm
RE: Fundamental Arrogance in Christianity - by Lek - February 26, 2017 at 6:14 pm
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